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2005-06-30 International-UN-NGOs
Clearing smoke may trigger global warming rise
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Posted by phil_b 2005-06-30 06:11|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Raising dust, you say? Is there a pot of money attached to it, or can we tax countries based on the mileage of dirt roads or something? That does sound much easier than measuring sheep and cow farts, I do say! Brown, call Kojo whip me up a memo, backdated to about mid-2003, saying I proposed this idea and the proceeds are to go to the UN Aid programs for, um, Africa, yeah, that's the ticket! Get right on that, won't you? There's a good chap.
Posted by .SecGen, Leech-o-Matic 2005-06-30 07:57||   2005-06-30 07:57|| Front Page Top

#2 Damn! Everything leads to global warming.
Posted by Spot">Spot  2005-06-30 08:22||   2005-06-30 08:22|| Front Page Top

#3 Heading out for a smoke. Gotta help save the planet! You can thank me later...
Posted by tu3031 2005-06-30 08:45||   2005-06-30 08:45|| Front Page Top

#4 Thanks, tu!

The new modelling study finds that only high estimates of both aerosol cooling and greenhouse warming can explain the history of global temperatures over the past 50 years.

Ah, yes, the infamous model showing ONLY 1 cause. No mention of this even potentially being related to natural warm/cool cycles in the earth; no, we can't have that result from our model, that would keep us from getting more $ for more models.

The authors have added another previously unrecognised element to the temperature forecast - the effect of all this on nature and the natural carbon cycle.

I've always just assumed that if there is truly global warming, then there's more arable land, and, thus, more trees/forests in areas that were previously frozen or tundra. But, what do I know, it only makes logical sense. Kind of like yesterday's report that the icecaps melting results in seawater that's less salty! Imagine that!
Posted by BA">BA  2005-06-30 09:23||   2005-06-30 09:23|| Front Page Top

#5 Clearing smoke may trigger global warming rise

How about:

Watching TV may trigger global warming

or,

Urinating may trigger global warming
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-06-30 10:13||   2005-06-30 10:13|| Front Page Top

#6 "But there is growing evidence that from about 2050, soils and forests will stop absorbing CO2 and start releasing it instead."

Say *what*? I know they don't mean to imply that plants are going to start breathing out CO2, but it sure as hell reads that way. Unless this is their roundabout way of predicting some sort of global forest fire.
Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H.  2005-06-30 10:37|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]  2005-06-30 10:37|| Front Page Top

#7 I think what they are saying is that the biomass being eaten by termites and othe animals will result in a release of CO2 greater than that absorbed by the growing plants. Sounds like BS to me. That sure is a lot of termite farts.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-06-30 10:52||   2005-06-30 10:52|| Front Page Top

#8 Sounds like BS to me

Sure, but if you repeat it often enough, you can get your followers to blame it on GWB, whatever it is.
Posted by 2b 2005-06-30 11:06||   2005-06-30 11:06|| Front Page Top

#9 If it will not hobble the American economy what good is such a solution?
Posted by J. Chirac 2005-06-30 16:09||   2005-06-30 16:09|| Front Page Top

#10 "But there is growing evidence that from about 2050, soils and forests will stop absorbing CO2 and start releasing it instead."

I don't know what their "reasoning" is, but Old Growth forests generally produce nearly as much CO2 as they use. It's the new, young, growing forests (and of course algae) that are the big CO2 sinks. So, the greenies running around trying to protect old-growth forests in the West (which proves they're really communists, as they protect redwoods) are causing global warming (if you believe rising CO2 is a cause, not an effect).

If you really wanted to reduce CO2, you need to log old forests (don't let them burn) and replant seedlings. Basically, the privately-owned tree farms in the southeast are model to use.

Posted by Jackal">Jackal  2005-06-30 17:26|| home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]  2005-06-30 17:26|| Front Page Top

#11 Jackal is right but only for the land. the real carbon sinks are the oceans where organic matter falls to the ocean floor where it is locked up in forming sediments. I recall the limiting factor on plankton growth which drives the whole ocean biosphere is minerals that originate from the land. So introducing dust into the atmosphere that falls into the oceans will stimulate plankton growth and hence capture more carbon. BTW, this should be easy to test.
Posted by phil_b 2005-06-30 18:14||   2005-06-30 18:14|| Front Page Top

#12 IOW, what the best of the best are trying hard NOT to say, until the next Research Grant allocations or election year PC, is that the OZONE HOLE is the earth's natural release method for greenhouse gases. Iff the pollutants were stratificallly "masking" global warming as is claimed, then the earth's land masses should be hotter than usual due to heat being reflected back, not the status quo, or cool or cooler. SUB-IOW, ITS DUBYA AND AMERICA'S FAULT THE FAILED LEFT CAN'T CONTROL AND REGULATE THE SUN AND OUTER SPACE AT WILL - you know, being an Anti-God God, or at least Darth Vader/Sidious vv the Force!? Prob NOT Madonna fans either!
Posted by JosephMendiola">JosephMendiola  2005-06-30 23:07|| n/a]">[n/a]  2005-06-30 23:07|| Front Page Top

#13 "Urinating may trigger global warming"

Geez, B-A-R, exactly how much beer did you drink? ;-p
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2005-06-30 23:13|| http://www.ariellestjohndesigns.com]">[http://www.ariellestjohndesigns.com]  2005-06-30 23:13|| Front Page Top

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