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2005-07-14 Terror Networks & Islam

How a Mosque for Ex-Nazis Became Center of Radical Islam

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Posted by 11A5S 2005-07-14 00:01|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 This article is just another example of the bullshit leftist opinions that pass for news in the Wall Street Journal's news section. We allied with a lot of dubious people in WWII and the Cold War, including the Soviet Union's Stalin (slaughtered tens of millions of Russians), Pakistan's Yahya Khan (slaughtered close to a million Bangladeshi secessionists) and Indonesia's Suharto (slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Communists). Of them all, the most ungrateful was the Soviet Union, which started proxy wars (Korea and Vietnam) that killed 100,000 Americans. A close runner-up is China, which forgot American assistance in routing the Japanese and invaded Korea, helping to kill almost 40,000 Americans. Then there is Pakistan, which Uncle Sam had supported since independence, but proceeded to create al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan after the Soviets withdrew. The reality is that there is nothing dubious in allying - which implies a confluence of interests, not becoming a country's bosom buddy - with unsavory characters. The problem with American policymakers is that they get confused and start mistaking allies of convenience for friends, and let their guard down. (Think Franklin Roosevelt and his lionization of Uncle Joe Stalin). That's the dubious part.

Posted by Zhang Fei">Zhang Fei 2005-07-14 08:36|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-07-14 08:36|| Front Page Top

#2 BTW, Ian Johnson used to write for the Independent or the Guardian (can't remember which), both left-wing papers in the UK. His writing style reminds me of the kind of BS I used to read in the Nation back in the days when I was young and dumb.

Posted by Zhang Fei">Zhang Fei 2005-07-14 08:42|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-07-14 08:42|| Front Page Top

#3 I agree ZF. While there is good info in here about who is who and what happened when, I got the feeling that the writer was a bit of a novice in mistaking the the connections that he studied as being the center of the atom. Plus I was irritated with his thinly veiled accusation that the CIA was to blame simply because they were present at one point. Yawn - so yesteryears whine. Oh well...still a good piece as knowledge is power.

Posted by 2b 2005-07-14 08:42|| 2005-07-14 08:42|| Front Page Top

#4 so much for my novice theory. I don't know.. someone pick an adjective for me...arrogant, stupid, willfully blind. whatever. It's a beginners mistake, who knows what his excuse is.

Posted by 2b 2005-07-14 08:57|| 2005-07-14 08:57|| Front Page Top

#5 Here is an interesting related article from the Oct. 4, 2004 FrontPage titled: The Muslim Brotherhood, Nazis and Al-Qaeda

Posted by ed 2005-07-14 09:57|| 2005-07-14 09:57|| Front Page Top

#6 2b: While there is good info in here about who is who and what happened when, I got the feeling that the writer was a bit of a novice in mistaking the the connections that he studied as being the center of the atom.

This guy's no beginner - he's got a resume as long as your arm - he's an ideologue. Some people believe in God - this guy's fundamental belief is that most of what is wrong in the world today is the result of Uncle Sam's machinations. At heart, this is the root of the anti-Americanism that pervades much of the media - an unfalsifiable quasi-religious superstition.

Posted by Zhang Fei">Zhang Fei 2005-07-14 10:11|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-07-14 10:11|| Front Page Top

#7 ed...you are a nice guy and all, and much as I respect the frontpage gusy, my first thought was that it was too glib to take seriously. That BBC NPR type shit isn't quite as good without the sound effects of cooking pots clanking and babies crying.

Then I found it a bit interesting, decided to put down the defensive shields to see if perhaps, there was something worth listening to...

but then this comment, "The British Secret Service wanted to use the fascists of the Muslim Brotherhood to strike down the infant state of Israel in 1948"

it goes downhill from there. I quit reading before the aliens stepped in.

Posted by 2b 2005-07-14 14:49|| 2005-07-14 14:49|| Front Page Top

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