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2005-07-28 Iraq-Jordan
Iraq gets blunt talk from Rumsfeld
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Posted by Fred 2005-07-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Good tactic for two reasons: (1) instill a sense of urgency and (2) the inevitable political back slide in US, fostered by MSM.
Posted by Captain America 2005-07-28 00:14||   2005-07-28 00:14|| Front Page Top

#2 take the troops out by way of Syria
Posted by OldSpook 2005-07-28 03:39||   2005-07-28 03:39|| Front Page Top

#3 As comments in RB said earlier this week, the USA sacrificing to create conditions where Iraq might be able to develop some form of representative government was a tremendously generous act. I think it was a noble experiment, but the next military action outside Iraq should be solely for the purposes of breaking things and killing asshats. My patience is almost exhausted. A lot of people here feel the same.
Posted by SR-71 2005-07-28 05:53||   2005-07-28 05:53|| Front Page Top

#4 What SR-71 said. I think we had to perform that experiment, at least so we could say honestly, "We tried. We really, REALLY tried."

I don't think we'll give up on Iraq, or Afghanistan; I hope we stay the course there, rather than giving up, packing up and going home in disgust; because if we were to do that, it would be interpreted by the Islamoloonies as a victory as well as a vindication of bin Laden's "Mogadishu Principle."

But, yes, our patience is damn near exhausted, and I doubt we'll ever try this experiment again anywhere else.

One lesson any future American president is going to take from the events of the last four years is that because of the antiwar Left and its unceasing propaganda, the American people aren't going to support any more "long, hard slogs" (Rumsfeld's phrase). Therefore, for political reasons, the president would feel compelled to respond to any future terrorist attacks on American soil with measures that produce a decisive result in a matter of days or even hours, not years.

By its opposition to Bush's efforts to reform the Islamic world, the Left has made a future war of annihilation much more likely.
Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2005-07-28 06:22||   2005-07-28 06:22|| Front Page Top

#5 the next military action outside Iraq should be solely for the purposes of breaking things and killing asshats

hear! hear!
Punative Raids all 'round!
Posted by Shipman 2005-07-28 08:03||   2005-07-28 08:03|| Front Page Top

#6 I disagree totally I believe the major reason why the LLL's have been able to shift public opinion in a war that by history comparison is a amazing all round sucess by both results time frame and especailly casualties. Back to point the reason is Bush it is simply his way of looking at how the gov works he is a politician 1st born bread Reagan saw the people as the gov were Bush sees it opposite. Reagan would talk directly to the people regulary to keep the majority involved and on the right page. Bush sees it backwards spent his time enforcing the politician side of things and allowing the LLL's media to run free. We see the result of this action you have the public opinion believing the media propoganda not the reality. Bush should have at the begining had a general coming on every week or day (like Swartzkolf did ) laying out that weeks good bad and whats next while at the same time the media should have been censored the whole time Iraq should have been under battle field limitations reporter wise until we pulled out that way the weekly briefing would have been forced to be carried by the media and at least some of the good would be known like we opened 3 schools this week the terrorist blew one up ect.. Bush should regularly come on TV and keep the people rallied up and fired up give some freekin examples of the past like how many soldgiers died say on D-day or any of the many island battles in the pacific were more died taking X little crapo island than has died in the whole war on terror. Bush has the right plan the right people to execute the plan but he is a weak leader not in will but in ability to talk to the american people. The LLL's should have been publicly humiliated for standing with our enemies by Bush but now the memory of 9-11 has faded 24-7 media dooom gloom and the LLL are more and more coming out getting louder and louder. It was Bush's job to keep people rallied up and the LLL's quiet. Hell I want a pres that when they talk about torture he just says straight up the prisoners are dead men are only alive becuase we think they have info valuable once they give that up we will finish the sentece period. F the UN and the geneva only applies to nations soldgeirs that follow the rules of war not blow up civilians with bombs and cell phones.
Posted by C-Low 2005-07-28 10:38||   2005-07-28 10:38|| Front Page Top

#7 On second thought....

hear! hear! again.... but let's wait for a few months whilst we break things.
Posted by Shipman 2005-07-28 13:42||   2005-07-28 13:42|| Front Page Top

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