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The Council on American-Islamic Relations

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Posted by Steve 2005-08-03 09:44|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Is this from a magazine you can buy?

Posted by 2b 2005-08-03 11:34|| 2005-08-03 11:34|| Front Page Top

#2 Note that the very name of CAIR implies that being American and being Islamic are sundered attributes/groups.

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2005-08-03 12:09|| 2005-08-03 12:09|| Front Page Top

#3 #1 Is this from a magazine you can buy?

It's on their website, click on the title, then home. I also hotlinked their name directly to the homepage. Don't know about a magazine, first time I've been there.

Posted by Steve">Steve 2005-08-03 12:23|| 2005-08-03 12:23|| Front Page Top

#4 'I want my ~~two dollars~~ Koran!'

Posted by Raj 2005-08-03 12:42|| 2005-08-03 12:42|| Front Page Top

#5 I have said for years (about 4 years to be exact) that it will probably take one more good terror attack to get people pissed off enough to shut down these kind of bastards. Sad, but true.

Posted by Angesh Speart1066 2005-08-03 12:55|| 2005-08-03 12:55|| Front Page Top

#6 AS,

Make no doubt about it, it's being shut down...slowly... so the MSM won't pick it up.

Posted by Poison Reverse 2005-08-03 13:09|| 2005-08-03 13:09|| Front Page Top

#7 Every time I hear a CAIR spokesman I get a little more suspicious. Not sure how you can shut them down, but a number of associate members are now in jail for various crimes. I know that the term moderate Muslim seems like a myth to many but I have met and worked with them. They are NOT the kind that would join a group like CAIR or any other group like them. Since Islam doesnât have any central figure we have to evaluate these groups one at a time and I think CAIR deserves a lot of scrutiny.

Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge 2005-08-03 13:27|| 2005-08-03 13:27|| Front Page Top

#8 CS: If you read Daniel Pipes for any length of time, you'll begin to see that he's Israel first, then the US (not that that's a bad thing). That being said, he makes MANY great points and has his ear to the grindstone (and tracks) these guys. Very closely associated with Steve Emerson (his was the 1st book I picked up after 9/11 and opened my eyes completely to the goons in our midst), but he's right on the money with this. Something like 5-6 of their former/current leadership have been charged or are under investigation for ties to terror (financial, ideological or otherwise). In fact, Pipes' latest article was on CAIR's "slander" lawsuit against Anti-CAIR (ACAIR), which they're close to settling. If you look at the charges the guy at ACAIR charged them with originally, and they've since backed away from fighting in court, it speaks volumes ($ to Hamas/Hezbollah, Terror ties here in the States, them stating publicly they want to overturn the US gov't with an Islamic one, etc.). Very good read.

Posted by BA 2005-08-03 14:26|| 2005-08-03 14:26|| Front Page Top

#9 BA, I am one of those fool Neocons that believe that Israel and the U.S. have a joint future so I can appreciate Daniel Pipes article spin in that direction. Every time I see a CAIR spokesperson interviewed they make allowances for suicide attacks on Israel but not the rest of the world. What kind of wapred sense of reality do they live in? It is precisely because we let the attacks to go on in Israel for this long that we now have them in our back yard. Up till 9/11 we were quite happy that to let Israel fight a front line war against Islamo-facists. Now it's here in the west and we can't afford to let some organization with quasi ties to terror groups to exists withing our borders. Like I said I know and work with Muslims and they feel the same disgust I do when they hear about homocide bombers. Pipes is correct that prior to 9/11 this group and others would speak openly of Islamic domination of the west. Not exactly the Knights of Columbus.

Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge 2005-08-03 17:01|| 2005-08-03 17:01|| Front Page Top

#10 It is precisely because we let the attacks to go on in Israel for this long that we now have them in our back yard.

Agreed, CS. If the petrowhores of the EU had put their foot down and declared suicide bombing unacceptable, and had stopped paying them off simply to assure a steady flow of oil, islamic terror would never have gotten this far. Can't have it one way in Israel and another way in the rest of the world.

Posted by PlanetDan">PlanetDan 2005-08-03 19:32|| 2005-08-03 19:32|| Front Page Top

#11 CS, PD: I wasn't meaning to make it sound like I was arguing for sticking it to Israel. Personally, I'm all for standing by Israel, and backing them militarily if needed. Their fight has now become our fight. Was just pointing out that he tends to be "Israel can do no wrong" in some of his articles, but I personally get his articles via e-mail and soak them all up. I'm all for shutting down CAIR and quick!

Posted by BA">BA 2005-08-03 21:18|| 2005-08-03 21:18|| Front Page Top

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