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2005-11-17 Home Front: Politix

Influential House Democrat Wants Immediate Iraq Withdrawal

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Posted by Glaviling Ebbosing9255 2005-11-17 15:38|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "There's people in hell wantin' ice water, but they're not gonna get it either."
-- My Old Man

Posted by mojo">mojo 2005-11-17 16:15|| 2005-11-17 16:15|| Front Page Top

#2 A different article about this guy said he is one of Nancy Pelosi's key advisers...

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-11-17 16:23|| 2005-11-17 16:23|| Front Page Top

#3 Vice President Dick Cheney jumped into the fray Wednesday by assailing Democrats who contend the Bush administration manipulated intelligence on Iraq, calling their criticism "one of the most dishonest and reprehensible charges ever aired in this city."
Murtha, a Marine intelligence officer in Vietnam, angrily shot back at Cheney: "I like guys who've never been there that criticize us who've been there. I like that. I like guys who got five deferments and never been there and send people to war, and then don't like to hear suggestions about what needs to be done."

I'll shut up since I've never been there, but a lot of you folks have. How do you respond to this guy?

Posted by tu3031 2005-11-17 16:46|| 2005-11-17 16:46|| Front Page Top

#4 Former Chariman of the House Armed Services Committee. Col. USMC, ret. Elected to the House with the ignominious class of 1974 that abandoned the Vietnamese.

This is electoral politics, plain and simple. Alito will put SCOTUS squarely in the R column. If the donks doen't get one house of congress in 2006 or the White House in 2008, they are irrelevant for a generation.

Washington D. C. is Zarq's most successful theater of ops in the war for Iraq. And he may win.

Posted by Craque Angaith9122 2005-11-17 16:47|| 2005-11-17 16:47|| Front Page Top

#5 It seems there IS such a thing as an "ex-Marine"...

Posted by mojo">mojo 2005-11-17 16:49|| 2005-11-17 16:49|| Front Page Top

#6 What this assclown did 30 years ago isn't relavant anymore. Cut and run isn't what we do, if he thinks so screw him.

Posted by Sock Puppet OÂ´ Doom 2005-11-17 17:00|| 2005-11-17 17:00|| Front Page Top

#7 After serving in the Marines in the early 1950's, he re-enlisted in 1966, at the age of 34, and served in Vietnam, earning a Bronze Star, two Purple Hearts and the Vietnamese Cross for Gallantry,

mighty, mighty impressive. Almost too impressive. Did anyone check to see if this guy is for real, or just another John Kerry? BTW, did you know Kerry served in Vietnam?

Very strange. I demand a DNA test!

Posted by 2b 2005-11-17 17:11|| 2005-11-17 17:11|| Front Page Top

#8 He's for real. But he's a Democrat.

Check this quote

May 6, 2004

Signaling a new, more aggressive line against the Bush administrationâs policy on Iraq, Rep. John Murtha (Pa.), the House Democratsâ most visible defense hawk, will join Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) today to make public his previously private statements that the conflict is âunwinnable.â

I don't think the Democrats will do well by playing politics with national security this way.

Posted by Graigum Phineck3308 2005-11-17 17:29|| 2005-11-17 17:29|| Front Page Top

#9 He re-enlisted at 34 to fight in Viet Nam and was highly decorated?

He sounds like Colonel Kurtz.

Posted by SLO Jim 2005-11-17 17:35|| 2005-11-17 17:35|| Front Page Top

#10 Don't shut up tu3031. That's exactly the aim of those who trot out the chickenhawk accusations. If Murthas arguments had merit he wouldn't be trying to shame into silence those who disagree with him.

Posted by Scott R">Scott R 2005-11-17 18:53|| http://five24.net]">[http://five24.net] 2005-11-17 18:53|| Front Page Top

#11 If the civilians were required to shut up, teh constitution would require military service before election to higher office. Salute Murtha for his service then tell him to f*&k off for disrespecting and throwing away the sacrifices made by this generations' fighters. He's seen the way to get re-elected in the Donk party is to tear down America. He can kiss my civilian ass

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-11-17 20:23|| 2005-11-17 20:23|| Front Page Top

#12 tu: I'll shut up since I've never been there, but a lot of you folks have. How do you respond to this guy?

The brutal truth is this - your role as a civilian isn't to empathize with the troops or to let veterans of any stripe dictate to you what your views should be. It is to decide what you feel to be in your interests and the nation's interests, and vote that that way and communicate your views to your elected representatives. I am grateful to veterans for having served, but they have no special right to dictate to us what our views should be. If Murtha wants to do that, maybe he should run for the position of dictator-for-life instead of Congressman. I won't stand for veterans giving me backtalk any more than I will stand for former accountants or lawyers giving me backtalk.

Posted by Elmenter Snineque1852 2005-11-17 20:38|| 2005-11-17 20:38|| Front Page Top

#13 Think of the military as your bodyguard. Would you tolerate your bodyguard calling you a "chickenhawk"? My response would be - "just do your job, or find some other line of work".

Posted by Elmenter Snineque1852 2005-11-17 20:53|| 2005-11-17 20:53|| Front Page Top

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