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2005-12-16 Home Front: Politix

Law Schools Learn Recruiting Lessons from Kindergarden

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Posted by Bobby 2005-12-16 06:24|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The amazing thing is that the lawyers, the law schools themselves, seek to undermine the very basis of their existence, the law. The Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Powers of Congress stipulates -
The Congress shall have Powerâ¦
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
Congress does this through Title 10 United States Code - Armed Forces. Subsection of which has these two punitive articles [Subtitle A, Part II, Chapter 47, Subchapter X]:

Art. 125. Sodomy
(a) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in unnatural carnal copulation with another person of the same or opposite sex or with an animal is guilty of sodomy. Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete the offense. (b) Any person found guilty of sodomy shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

And

Art. 78. Accessory after the fact
Any person subject to this chapter who, knowing that an offense punishable by this chapter has been committed, receives, comforts, or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial, or punishment shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

Article 78 is the lawful basis for âDonât ask, donât tellâ, because under military law unlike civilian law, if you know, you must tell. Itâs not policy. It is the law.
Itâs Congressâ law. Its in that portion of the Constitution for a reason [look up Oliver Cromwell for background]. If the advocates want it changed, go to Congress. The last thing anyone wants, who has a decent understanding of history, is to separate the military from obeying the law of the people.

The schools have accorded themselves in a manner of a two bit street hustler pushing a game of three card monty. There is no intellect here. There is just the cited immature I wahahna, I wahahna, I wahahna wrapped in the most egregious example of legal obscurantism

Posted by Grinesing Slererong3182 2005-12-16 10:07|| 2005-12-16 10:07|| Front Page Top

#2 The policy in place works very well and lends itself to the military culture. I spent twenty years in the Air Force and I can't remember a single time I had to announce or profess my sexual preference to my troops or to my supervisors (FYI, I am a flaming heterosexual). I am sure of only one person that was gay during my 20 years (because she told me) and there probably were others but I couldnât care less. I only cared that they did their job and did it well. Whatever they decided to do on their own time behind closed doors didnât concern me. To make a long story short (lol) the donât ask/donât tell works. I suspect the gay lobby wants is some protected status within the military and that is counter to military culture.

Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge 2005-12-16 10:26|| 2005-12-16 10:26|| Front Page Top

#3 "Flaming.." It shows, Cyber Sarge. *grin*

Posted by trailing wife 2005-12-16 12:30|| 2005-12-16 12:30|| Front Page Top

#4 I heard some of the arguments before the Court the other day listening to National People's Radio in the car. The lawyer for the schools came off as a whiney child while one of the Justices (Roberts, iirc) kept asking short pointed questions like jabs to the nose. I was laughing out loud.

To paraphrase the discussion:

Roberts: If you don't like it, don't take the money.
Lawyer: We want the money. We just don't want anyone telling us what to do. Besides, the Army sucks.
Roberts: You can still say the Army sucks.
Lawyer: Yeah, but no one will believe us.
Roberts: That's because you took the money.
( laughter throughout courtroom )

Posted by SteveS 2005-12-16 13:05|| 2005-12-16 13:05|| Front Page Top

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