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2005-12-19 Science & Technology

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Posted by Steve 2005-12-19 11:54|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 A white phosphorus, depleted uranium, armor piercing, high explosive, napalm hollow point that turns into cluster bombs when you fire it...if possible.

Posted by tu3031 2005-12-19 12:31|| 2005-12-19 12:31|| Front Page Top

#2 7.62Xsomething realistic would be much better.

Posted by Mahou Sensei Negi-bozu 2005-12-19 12:42|| 2005-12-19 12:42|| Front Page Top

#3 how about a lighter bullet that also contains jiggle juice so it disables the enemy and makes him (or I guess her) an instant intel asset when captured and an intel problem for the enemy if the enemy takes them from the battlefield

Posted by mhw 2005-12-19 13:49|| 2005-12-19 13:49|| Front Page Top

#4 They already have it, it's a .308

Now all they need are guns to shoot them.

Posted by Snaving Jomoting3348 2005-12-19 14:18|| 2005-12-19 14:18|| Front Page Top

#5 Man is this a golden oldie!

The current rounds are 5.56 NATO and 7.62 NATO also known as the .223 and .308. There is also the .50 caliber machine gun round that is ALSO used in sniper rifles (when you care enough to send the very best).

This argument has been going on since the '50s and the change to the small round was primarily based on 1) weight (the grunt could carry more ammo) and 2) range (battles didn't require the long range kill power of the .30-06 that was standard in WWII.

Note to the design factor that this was for use by a draftee army without much marksmanship (also known as spray and pray) skill. Today, the troops would be served well with a semi-auto with a heavier bullet since they are now in the business of one shot, one kill. The rounds that I've heard good things about are the 7.62 and 6.8 or .243.

Posted by AlanC">AlanC 2005-12-19 14:22|| 2005-12-19 14:22|| Front Page Top

#6 ...and is less effective in blasting through walls and vehicles during urban fighting.

That is why you have a 50cal. Use the right weapon for the target. You don't need a bigger bullet, you need more support weapons further down the chain. Either get that weapon down there or find something to knock down walls and doors that's lighter than a 50 to haul around - maybe a 90mm Karl Gustav.

Posted by Spuque Elminelet9733 2005-12-19 15:07|| 2005-12-19 15:07|| Front Page Top

#7 Don't forget the bacon submunition, tu3031. :}

Posted by Trub 2005-12-19 15:08|| 2005-12-19 15:08|| Front Page Top

#8 A Zionist mind-ray attachment would be nice too.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-12-19 15:13|| 2005-12-19 15:13|| Front Page Top

#9 A Zionist mind-ray attachment would be nice too.

Under development through a joint NSA and IDF partnership authorized under the Patriot Act. Attaches to both the Browning M2 50 cal and the Karl Gustav with wireless mike chin strap pickup. Comes in basic radar resistant iodized black for special operators, and a variety of camo schemes to include USMC patterns.

Posted by Besoeker 2005-12-19 15:19|| 2005-12-19 15:19|| Front Page Top

#10 I predict 50 posts.

Posted by Heartless Spemble1219 2005-12-19 16:01|| 2005-12-19 16:01|| Front Page Top

#11 I'd say a 7.62 mix of heavy penetration and fragmentation. When I was in Vietnam, I ended up in a situation where I was issued a weapon - an old M-2 carbine firing a .30 cal round. The 30 or so of us with this weapon were hitting targets and stopping them at 100+ yards, while the M-16 troops were ineffective over 100 yards. My M-2 went through 600-700 rounds without jamming, while the M-16 guys were jamming at about 120 rounds every time. That was 1971 - this is 2005, and the problem STILL persists.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2005-12-19 16:18|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2005-12-19 16:18|| Front Page Top

#12 Our son is over in western Al-Anbar area up along the border. He has a 240-Golf (says the 5.56 M-16/M-4 & SAW don't create enough knockdown or damage in house-to-house and pursuit operations). Says also would like to trade in his 9mm sidearm for a .40 or a M1911 Colt (doesn't like having to use more than one round). Never asked about the .77 grain, probably he would never see it anyway as it seems that they're "rationing" this ammo.

Posted by rlynes 2005-12-19 16:20|| 2005-12-19 16:20|| Front Page Top

#13 Besoeker, you're on a roll today. That's funny!

Oh, and can I have one of those (in blue-green, to match my eyes) for the days when the trailing daughters are feeling obstreperous?

Posted by trailing wife 2005-12-19 16:35|| 2005-12-19 16:35|| Front Page Top

#14 rlynes, please tell your son thank you from us. And to you also, for providing us with a man of his calibre (*ducks* sorry!).

Posted by trailing wife 2005-12-19 16:40|| 2005-12-19 16:40|| Front Page Top

#15 Thanks tw. He and the guys certainly appreciate all the support they get from folks. They DO understand that the MSM and lefty types are absolutely wrong in their "armchair assumptions" about what liberty is all about.

Posted by rlynes 2005-12-19 17:13|| 2005-12-19 17:13|| Front Page Top

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