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2005-12-21 Home Front: Politix

Clinton: EXECUTIVE ORDER 12949 - Wiretap Certification +

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Posted by 3dc 2005-12-21 08:22|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "Left Angle" you're awfully quiet.
Don't like it when you're shown proof of identical "Wrongdoing" by your God Clintoon?

How dare we expose your hypocracy? We dare. Printed proof is a bitch, isn't it?

Posted by Redneck Jim 2005-12-21 08:33|| 2005-12-21 08:33|| Front Page Top

#2 It is simply a question doing as we say not as we do, just like the EO written and signed by Jimmy C

Posted by Cheaderhead 2005-12-21 10:05|| 2005-12-21 10:05|| Front Page Top

#3 Don't like it when you're shown proof of identical "Wrongdoing" by your God Clintoon?

Well, Clintoon isn't in office anymore so what he did doesn't count. That's the idea, at least...

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-12-21 10:26|| 2005-12-21 10:26|| Front Page Top

#4 I think LA has move back to addicting games and Nickelodean.

Posted by 49 pan">49 pan 2005-12-21 10:39|| 2005-12-21 10:39|| Front Page Top

#5 As I said in the oterh thread, this is an "inconvienient truth" for Rocks-For-Brains-Feller.

Posted by BigEd 2005-12-21 11:11|| 2005-12-21 11:11|| Front Page Top

#6 First off unless they changed the rules since I retired in 2000, there was absolutely nothing wrong with what the President authorized. Spying on communications outside the U.S. is the primary job of NSA. Second, if there were some legal grayness on this issue I would make it a quick vote in the Senate to eliminate any ambiguity. Although I doubt that the law was that vague and I do believe the President followed procedures. Third, you canât readily tell if someone is talking about a terrorists act or ordering takeout unless you first listen and then analyze. This does not lend itself to FISA process, because most of these phone calls didnât last long enough to fill out the paperwork. Finally, whoever leaked this story to the press should be sent to prison for leaking classified information outside official channels. If they thought something was done wrong they should have addressed it to their superiors. This also exposes a subculture in DC that thinks THEY are in charge of the country and not the President. A few key firings would due wonders to remedy this culture. This is not whistle-blowing, this is subversion.

Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge 2005-12-21 11:31|| 2005-12-21 11:31|| Front Page Top

#7 Sadly, if you could send a heavenly query to any of the victims of Pan Am Flight 103, Khobar Towers, the Beirut Bombing, or 9/11, I suspect you'd discover not a single one would have objected to anything NSA could have monitored. Why should any of us?

Posted by Besoeker 2005-12-21 11:36|| 2005-12-21 11:36|| Front Page Top

#8 It sure looks like Clinton's wiretapping was more intrusive than that of Bush. Clinton's reasons are sorta weak (economic mainly) while Bush's are very strong (imminent national security reasons). By the way, what's the big deal about getting approval from a judge? There are a lot of scummy judges out there. 62 million people voted to give Bush authority to lead the nation. I think that's more significant than one judge.

Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2005-12-21 15:17|| 2005-12-21 15:17|| Front Page Top

#9 I read an editorial this morning noting the original order was solid gold, but ... W had four years to get a more formal 'approval'....

I suppose he was concerned (certain?) some far-left windbag would blow the whistle on the whole shebang.

Posted by Bobby 2005-12-21 21:38|| 2005-12-21 21:38|| Front Page Top

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