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2006-04-23 Home Front: Politix
FoxNews John Gibson on: Dana Priest, Valerie Palme, Mary McCarthy and James Risen
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Posted by 3dc 2006-04-23 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Solid point: the one who leaked the NSA program is probably getting ready ti lose bowel control - because they are coming for him/her, and they know the leak was politically motivated.

Followed by subpeonas (and charges) for James Risen of The New York Times, for recieving and knowlingly distributing classified information, the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause serious (or possibly even exceptionally grave) damage to the national security.

Shows that the reporter has, in fact, broken the espinoage law:

U.S.C. Title 18, Part I Ch 37 Sec 793(e) Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information


"(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or
control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch,
photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model,
instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or
information relating to the national defense which information the
possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the
United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully
communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated,
delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver,
transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the
same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains
the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the
United States entitled to receive it;"

Also a good look at this is in order as well:


U.S.C. Title 18, Part I Ch 37 Sec 793(e) Sec. 798. Disclosure of classified information

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes,
transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person,
or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or
interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign
government to the detriment of the United States any classified
information

(4) obtained by the process of communication intelligence from
the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to
have been obtained by such processes -
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten
years, or both.

The term ''unauthorized person'' means any person who, or agency
which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories
set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or
by the head of a department or agency of the United States
Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage
in communication intelligence activities for the United States.
...
(d)(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall
forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State
law -
(A) any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds
the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of
such violation; and There goes that Pultizer
(B) any of the person's property used, or intended to be used,
in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission
of, such violation. There goes the NYT's printing presses and computer systems
(2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a
conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the
defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in
paragraph (1).

Same forfieture as the RICO act Drug Property seizures
Posted by Oldspook 2006-04-23 00:41||   2006-04-23 00:41|| Front Page Top

#2 Thanks for the law update, OS. I'm skeptical that either Dana Priest or James Risen will actually face criminal charges, but if they are indicted expect the progressive left to go absolutely ape.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2006-04-23 00:48||   2006-04-23 00:48|| Front Page Top

#3 Same with the "Bush will nuke Iran" story.

This could turn out great, esp. if certain law-breaking NYT, MSNBC, and CNN reporters are frog-marched out of their offices to jail.
Posted by Whinese Uleaque2566 2006-04-23 01:01||   2006-04-23 01:01|| Front Page Top

#4 I do not see any reason to exclude the editors and, very likely in such stories, the ownership of the papers involved. Nothing there indicates the law only applies to the first entity to receive the classified information. The stories produced from these leaks are obviously conspiracies. NYT and WaPo... RICO, indeed. Take it all.
Posted by Omaimble Whose3889 2006-04-23 01:27||   2006-04-23 01:27|| Front Page Top

#5 PST: 12:27

FOX just ran vid of her testifing on 9/11, may have been run earlier.

Culture of Treason: Mary McCarthy
Posted by RD 2006-04-23 03:33||   2006-04-23 03:33|| Front Page Top

#6 Of course they NYT and those reporters will not be charged. They'll wrap themselves inteh First Admendment - abusing it in the process. The First Admendment does not mean you can say anything you want nor can you break the law, especially when its public safety (Yelling Fire in a theater, etc), or national security.

Those reporters KNEW the information was classified (hence the "leak"), and they knowingly and willingly published it. I beleive they should be charged and forfiet all monies made from the stories they published - that includes the Pulitzer. If you think about it, they took information that damaged the US ability to secure tiself, and published it to MAKE MONEY. In a sense, they simply sold secrets, same as any spay like Hannasen or the Walkers. And McCarthy did it for Political motivations - same as John Pollard.

Both the reporters and McCarthy should be going to prison. They KNEW what they were doing was wrong, but their own imperatives of political and monetry gain were more important, so they disregarded the law.

Like the Walkers and Pollard, they should be put in jail. It is that simple.
Posted by Oldspook 2006-04-23 11:43||   2006-04-23 11:43|| Front Page Top

#7 Priest, Risen, et al are accomplices to crimes.

They should decorate their prison cells with the P-Prize.
Posted by Captain America 2006-04-23 12:32||   2006-04-23 12:32|| Front Page Top

#8 
#5 - RD

I love that - Culture of Treason

Request permission to steal that
Posted by macofromoc 2006-04-23 15:33||   2006-04-23 15:33|| Front Page Top

#9 "Of course they NYT and those reporters will not be charged. They'll wrap themselves inteh First Admendment - abusing it in the process. The First Admendment does not mean..."

Yeah. I think that
A. they will be charged.
B. They'll try to wrap themselves in the constitution.
C. They'll lose.
Between this and the Hatfill case that will almost surely overturn Sulivan, the days of an absolute 1st amendment are just about over.
Posted by Hupomoque Spinesh6287 2006-04-23 16:59||   2006-04-23 16:59|| Front Page Top

#10 I don't know what you mean by "the days of an absolute 1st amendment are just about over," HS, but I certainly hope the days of using the First Amendment to BREAK THE LAW AND DAMAGE OUR COUNTRY are at an end.

These clowns should have to follow the same laws the rest of us do.

Unlike most "reporters," apparently, I've actually read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and NOWHERE in there do the words "public's right to know" or "right not to be offended" or "reporters are above the law" appear.
Posted by  Barbara Skolaut"> Barbara Skolaut  2006-04-23 17:47|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]  2006-04-23 17:47|| Front Page Top

#11 Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten
years, or both.

Hell it should be a MINIMUM of 10 years.
These folks need to go down, man if they wiggle out of this, the protections these guys have is ridiculous.
Posted by Jan 2006-04-23 17:59||   2006-04-23 17:59|| Front Page Top

#12 sure macofromoc, Lift away, I sure do! More stuff link
Posted by RD 2006-04-23 18:02||   2006-04-23 18:02|| Front Page Top

#13 If McCarthy gets away with treason, if Dana Priest and James Risen get away with suborning treason and being an accomplice to treason, then I hope someone in our government puts a .38 caliber stop to their careers. It would be justice of the first degree. These people should be punished for harming the nation as a whole, and should NOT be rewarded for thier improper behavior.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2006-04-23 20:38|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2006-04-23 20:38|| Front Page Top

#14 Oldpatrioit, don't go there. There's a point that we shoudl nto go past, even with treasonous people. If the system fails, fix the system.
Posted by OldSpook 2006-04-23 21:55||   2006-04-23 21:55|| Front Page Top

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