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2006-08-17 Home Front: WoT
Mich. Prosecutor Dropping Terror Case
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Posted by Steve White 2006-08-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Which puts them in the position of admitting to the crime of defrauding the cell phone company, right?

Wrong, Defrauding them just how?
Once I buy something, it belongs to me, not the company.
"Hoping the buyers will buy additional minutes" is a risk taken by the phone company, not a "Fraud"
If any fraud has taken place, it's the phone company putting in software that prevents you from using any other carrier, removing that software BY THE OWNER is not fraud.

Think of buying a Chevy, and finding that the Chevy will only take a special gasoline nozzle that requires you to buy Chevrolet Gasoline.
A refular gas pump nozzle (All other pumps) will not fit.

That Nozzle would be on the car about one minuite after I found this out. It's called "Restraint of Trade"
Posted by Redneck Jim 2006-08-17 06:27||   2006-08-17 06:27|| Front Page Top

#2 What I found peculiar, is they when they were caught, they were separating the phones in one box and the chargers into another. Who would buy a phone without the ability to recharge the battery?

I supposed it would only be neccessary to charge the phone long enough for its purpose (??Detonator).

See "Bojinka" airline plot.
Posted by Delphi2005 2006-08-17 08:41||   2006-08-17 08:41|| Front Page Top

#3 Because phones were to be sent where electrical outlets are 240 volts.
Posted by ed 2006-08-17 08:53||   2006-08-17 08:53|| Front Page Top

#4 No doubt these guys are just a part of a larger operation. Letting them walk is just another case of PC stupidity.
Posted by wxjames 2006-08-17 09:55||   2006-08-17 09:55|| Front Page Top

#5 I have an alternate theory to the detonator angle. Maybe they are part of an identity theft ring. The original “owners” or purchasers can legally request the billing records. (Which include call records) Giving away pre-paid phone cards is a legal technique used by skip-tracers to acquire base information on people whom they suspect have connections to others that have defaulted on loans. Some, no doubt, use this completely legal technique for more nefarious reasons.
Posted by DepotGuy 2006-08-17 10:58||   2006-08-17 10:58|| Front Page Top

#6 "Because phones were to be sent where electrical outlets are 240 volts."

So? Very few if any electrical devices, including phone chargers are designed to work on just 110V, it is an almost universal practice that they support 110/220V. Look at one sometime.

-M
Posted by Manolo 2006-08-17 12:28||   2006-08-17 12:28|| Front Page Top

#7 Once I buy something, it belongs to me, not the company.

Depends on the terms under which you bought it.
Posted by lotp 2006-08-17 12:39||   2006-08-17 12:39|| Front Page Top

#8 "Once I buy something, it belongs to me, not the company."

Obviously you have never read the End User Service Agreement associated with any of the Software applications you've purchased.

-M
Posted by Manolo 2006-08-17 12:49||   2006-08-17 12:49|| Front Page Top

#9 The media does belong to the purchaser. The information on it does not.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-08-17 12:53||   2006-08-17 12:53|| Front Page Top

#10 Manolo, you are correct with respect to the charger itself, but the cord, if attached to the charger, likely does not have the correct plug configuration. If that portion of the cable is removeable from the charger then I see your point.
Posted by remoteman 2006-08-17 13:47||   2006-08-17 13:47|| Front Page Top

#11 With regard to plug configuration, that's easily solved with a simple plug adapter available for purchase at all international airports, suitcase shops, Radio Shack stores in the nearby Mall, etc. And likely made up in job lots in Peshawar as needed.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-08-17 14:00||   2006-08-17 14:00|| Front Page Top

#12 Giving away pre-paid phone cards is a legal technique used by skip-tracers to acquire base information on people

Gonna remember that one.
Posted by 6 2006-08-17 17:36||   2006-08-17 17:36|| Front Page Top

#13 Why not restrict the purchase of cell phones, by non-dealers, to one each per piece of verifiable identification presented? Who needs 1,000 cell phones? Want more? Jump through all of the hoops to become a registered (and monitored) dealer.
Posted by Zenster 2006-08-17 18:41||   2006-08-17 18:41|| Front Page Top

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