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2006-08-18 Home Front: WoT

Diane West: Do It My Way, President Bush

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Posted by Snease Shaiting3550 2006-08-18 04:50|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Rather than continuing to emphasize the democratization of the Muslim Middle East as our key tool in the war on terror, I will henceforth emphasize the prevention of Shariah from reaching the West as our key tool in the war on terror.

Smart lady.

Posted by gromgoru 2006-08-18 05:58|| 2006-08-18 05:58|| Front Page Top

#2 Democratization only works after you have denazifized/de-imperialized/de-islamized a country.

When the allies occupied Germany they didn't allow Nazi educational system, Hitlerjugends and Goebbels propaganda apparatus free to continue to mold Germans minds into believing that they were a master race allowed to endalve and exterminate who they wanted. Instead Germans were forced to vists the extermination camps (solme committed suicide afterwards) to take full measure of their depravity.

To a lesser degree the Americans did the same in Japan where the cult of the emperor, bushido and Japanese imperuialism were dismantled and where Mac Arthur nor the Japanese dictated the constitution.

In Irak it was imperative to dismantle as much of Islam's nad Arab nationalism's (two faces of the same coin) propaganda apparatus as possible, supress any preach/speech/teaching telling about Jihad, conquest of infidel lands, Arabs seen as master race. In fact we should have strived for Irakis seeing themselves as the descdents wsho first solved the sencond degree equation and look at Arabs with contempt (no more: before Islam it was darkness).

Of course wen should have made Irakis conscients of the crimes perpetrated by Arab nationalism and Islamism (broadcasts about Arab atrocities in Sudan, telling the truth about Palestinians or about the Arab conquests) so they prefer to be a another thing than Arabs and Muslims.

Also democracy is not just when there are elections, it is when people vote as individuals. If you allow husbands tell wives who they have to vote or tribal leaders to dictate the vote of an entire tribe you don't have democracy.

Finally, real democracy is when politicians respond to the people: most euopean electoral systems are deigned in a such way that the real power to demote a politician is in the hands of the party not of the people (except in the unlikely case where the party loses 90% of his voters)

For those reasons the Americans should have done what they did in Germany and Japan: take charge of the civilian administration and dictate the Constitution. A secular Constitution guaranteeing freedom of religion and, very important, freedom to change religion.

Problem is that OIF was presented as a war to liberate Irak from Saddam instead of a war against Irak or Arab imperialism. and liberators don't have the same free hands as occupiers.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2006-08-18 09:10|| 2006-08-18 09:10|| Front Page Top

#3 JFM:
You have to agree that democraticization is a noble idea. I have to agree with you that Muslims aren't noble.

Remember Carter's placement of human rights as central to US foreign policy? We should invert that 180 degrees. If that sounds imperialistic, then I am an imperialist.

Posted by Snease Shaiting3550 2006-08-18 10:13|| 2006-08-18 10:13|| Front Page Top

#4
You have to agree that democraticization is a noble idea. I have to agree with you that Muslims aren't noble.

Islam is not noble but I have met noble Muslims. Not islamists, just people who were born Muslims and haven't thouyght much about what is in Coran.

But yes, the ideology called Islam is quite simply evil and must go the way Nazism, western slavery and the Aztec religion went.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2006-08-18 10:44|| 2006-08-18 10:44|| Front Page Top

#5 JFM, I don't disagree, but...

Is Islam more like Nazism and western slavery than Aztec religion? That is, are there enough noble Muslims who are willing to leave Islam behind them to join the modern world or are there so few that we will have to utterly destory the society to expunge its culture?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-08-18 10:48|| 2006-08-18 10:48|| Front Page Top

#6 #4 :Islam is not noble but I have met noble Muslims. Not islamists, just people who were born Muslims and haven't thouyght much about what is in Coran.

This is absolutely true. Islam does not understand the Universal Golden Rule but simply wants to dominate the world. It's a cult dressed up as a (plagiarized)monotheistic religion. Were it really a persuasion, as all other religion, the anti-apostasy law would have been long abolished over time.

Posted by Duh! 2006-08-18 11:44|| 2006-08-18 11:44|| Front Page Top

#7 I agree JFM. Islam needs to go or get beaten into submission. (no pun intended) If there was a way to beat islam out of puberty and make it actually act more "adult" like I'd be all for it but I don't have a good plan for that one. The other problem is we do not have a leader or a national will (yet) that will call this for what it is - it is a war on the true nature of islam. 7th Century fanatics wielding 21st century technology cannot be allowed to run rampant on the globe nowadays. Our planet is just too small for that shit.

We have had a clash of civilizations (I use that term loosely w/ref to the muzzies) since 1979 w/the hostage crisis. We were preoccupied w/the commies until about 1989. Now are focus is getting more clear on islam as a parasite on the earth body that needs to be forcibly removed. I see no real solution other than going wetworks on selected individuals and eventually trouncing Iran & Syria. I'm starting to think Ann Coulter was dead on - kill their leaders and convert them to christianity (not that I'm a christian fundamentalist but you get the point). It would probably be the only thing the islamoclowns understand.

Posted by Broadhead6 2006-08-18 12:22|| 2006-08-18 12:22|| Front Page Top

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