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2006-08-23 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by ryuge 2006-08-23 06:51|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Why not assume that the President has already decided on regime change in Iran? The past 5 years since 9-11 have not played out according to plan. Ergo: try something different.

Groups like Hamas, Hizbollah, Basij, Mahdi Army, al-Fatah, Jamaat-i-Islami, Taliban, al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood should not exist. If we drop any plans to democraticize these animals, then the secular remnants in the Muslim countries could be forced to liquidate that enemy. Democraticization has somewhat legitimated terror groups. We have no alternative other than liquidation.

Posted by Snease Shaiting3550 2006-08-23 08:23|| 2006-08-23 08:23|| Front Page Top

#2 The 5-point plan, sort of like the end of the Godfather this should all happen at once if possible.

(1) Build up along the Iraqi/Syrian borders and Iraqi/Iranian borders to get Syria/Iranians to shift military equipment to the borders (or bury it to save it). Do this with the increased strength currently going into Iraq (2) Israel takes out Syria while the Syrian military is stretched, in the East, or hiding. (3) Kill Sadr (4) Target the Iranian leadership with concrete bombs if they pop their head up. (5) Promote revolution in Iran over the radio, satelites, internet, and loudspeakers. Parachute in radios if need be, with the military on the border there will be fewer people to bash down any revolts.

Then wait and see.

It is time to take the offensive again.

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-08-23 18:28|| 2006-08-23 18:28|| Front Page Top

#3 Snease Shaiting3550 - I'd say that nothing has been carved into stone except that the US, true to its traditions and beliefs, had to try the democratization route. It's a well-worn topic here, from my readings. That the Muzzies are incapable of connecting the dots and resort to their age-old sectarian and "Muzzy First" habits comprise the answer to the question, "Can they change? Can they accept the great gift offered to them on a silver platter?" Nope. I believe we will not see the US attempt any nation-building on the behalf of Arabs or Islam, at least on the scale of Iraq, ever again. They blew it for everyone else.

Obviously, I agree Iran is the key to the most pressing threat. Bush will play the various political games to try to cover his eventual attack on Iran. It's his reality. This seems to make many people go totally bonkers. "Isn't the UN dead, already? Haven't we learned that the Tranzis will stab us in the back?" Etc. I'm sure Bush gets it - but he has to deal with rampant nitwit BDS, tenacious partisan political realities, and bona-fide legal hurdles he must negotiate. Sucks to be him, IMHO, but that is the lot he must deal with. So he does - and gets ankle-bitten by the New BDS strain - from the right.

He has said that they must not have nukes. He said it several times, including very recently, and I believe he meant it. So I believe that, when he thinks he's checked off all the political boxes that the timeframe allows, he will, indeed, take the Iranian regime down. The ankle-biting always begs the question, when people get nutso about his failure to have already acted, "Gee, do they know more than the President of the US?" No. That's simply stupid.

Much has been said about the fact that Iran is a group of ethnic states being held captive by what has become a minority (?) of Persians. I believe that, once the grip of the Mullahs is broken by US decapitation and reduction of the nuke efforts, Iran will never be a threat again.

Tony is obviously a very smart guy. I hope it's contagious.

Posted by flyover 2006-08-23 18:38|| 2006-08-23 18:38|| Front Page Top

#4 flyover:

Well said. The President had a mandate to follow the post 9-11 route that he chose. I would point to errors, but not to bad faith. I am confident that he will both do the right thing, and secure bi-partisan support.

Posted by Snease Shaiting3550 2006-08-23 20:02|| 2006-08-23 20:02|| Front Page Top

#5 Iraq put us out of nation building, we will never do it again that is why I will feel very sorry for the next country that gets lined up in our sights it will not be pretty.

Posted by djohn66 2006-08-23 20:18|| 2006-08-23 20:18|| Front Page Top

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