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2006-08-31 Great White North

Katrina: Forget everything you thought you knew

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Posted by Steve 2006-08-31 12:18|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 It's all Bushes fault I tell ya.

But to add insult to injury, nearly all the aid money is going to New Orleans and very little is going to the devistated outlying areas.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-08-31 13:12|| 2006-08-31 13:12|| Front Page Top

#2 But...but...Spike Lee sed...

Posted by SLO Jim 2006-08-31 13:17|| 2006-08-31 13:17|| Front Page Top

#3 So let's not rebuild the levee. If NOLA wants to, it can pay for it itself.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-08-31 13:28|| 2006-08-31 13:28|| Front Page Top

#4 Things We Learned From Hurricane Katrina

* If you lose your child in a level 1-5 hurricane, it's Bushs's fault.
* Kanye West's career peaked last September.
* New Orleans is a sinkhole.
* In the summer... New Orleans is a hot, humid sinkhole.
* Bourbon Street is the highest point in New Orleans... figures!
* Hurricane survivors did not eat corpses to survive.
* There were no bodies stacked in the basement of the Superdome.
* If you are told to bring enough supplies to an emergency shelter for three days and you run out of food and water in 4 hours, its Bush's fault.
* If you live in Utah and welcome New Orleans citizens into your communities, you're still racists and part of the problem.
* Buses run best dry.
* Oprah and Ray Nagin, "They're murdering people in there (superdome)!" - Not True.
* Oprah and Ray Nagin, "They're raping people in there (superdome)!" - Not True.
* Oprah and Ray Nagin, "The babies! (are dying)" - Nope.
* If you live in hurricane alley make sure you elect a Republican governor.
* Spike Lee peaked with "Do the Right Thing".
* The people in Houston were the real Saints.
* Houston's crime rate is soaring.
* Finally, if you can't find your child for two months after a level 1-5 hurricane, it's Bush's fault.

Hat Tip Gateway Pundit

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2006-08-31 13:44|| 2006-08-31 13:44|| Front Page Top

#5 I always thought Monkey Mountain in the Audubon Park Zoo was the highest point in the city limits.

Posted by 6 2006-08-31 15:05|| 2006-08-31 15:05|| Front Page Top

#6 i thought everything was bushs' fault. i mean damn didn't he make the hurricane

Posted by sinse 2006-08-31 17:04|| 2006-08-31 17:04|| Front Page Top

#7 Good article. Some additional comments:

"Category 1 by the time she hit New Orleans"
Maybe so, but the extent of roof damage, as well as windows, walls, trees, says it had more and stronger gusts than a typical Cat. 1. Even without the flooding this storm did a whole lot of damage.

The levees that failed & flooded the main part of the city were not truly 'designed & built' by the Corps of Engineers; they 'evolved' over 100 years, and the Corps added to them. They didn't add to them very well, and did so without records of what they were adding to (soil types, buried structures, etc.) The levees were doomed.

Those levees were not just leaking for a year - try at least 20 years. Inspection & maintainance are city levee board responsibility (not Corps), which they badly neglected. Those jobs were political 'rewards'. The levees were doomed. And unless something changes they're still doomed.

When Bush made the infamous statement after the storm passed that we never expected the levees to fail I suspect he was meaning essentially what was stated in this article - that given the conditions actually encountered the levees shouldn't have failed. Once the storm passed we all thought we'd dodged the bullet again, until reports started trickling in about flooding. For a while people didn't believe it, since it shouldn't have happened. The sense of urgency was directed at the MS coast, where the devastation was obvious.

The downriver side of the Industrial Canal (New Orleans East, Lower Ninth Ward, St. Bernard Parish) was flooded by a bunch of levee failures independent of design or maintainance - they were just overwhelmed, and most people fully expected that.

The failure of either the 17th St Canal (subject of the video) or the London Ave Canal would have flooded the city to the same level - essentially sea level. That two failed just doubled the fill rate.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2006-08-31 17:39|| 2006-08-31 17:39|| Front Page Top

#8 Thanks Glenmore, sounds like you know.

Posted by 6 2006-08-31 17:57|| 2006-08-31 17:57|| Front Page Top

#9 Also, based on the apparent damage from photographs, what hit Mississippi was much more than a Category 1. OTOH, Mississippi was on the "stronger" side of the storm.

Posted by Phil 2006-08-31 18:17|| 2006-08-31 18:17|| Front Page Top

#10 Glenmore, can I quote your comments on my 'blog?

Posted by Phil 2006-08-31 18:17|| 2006-08-31 18:17|| Front Page Top

#11 Phil,
Yes, sure. What blog is that?

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2006-08-31 19:13|| 2006-08-31 19:13|| Front Page Top

#12 Well, I haven't been posting much in the past year, but I've decided to start again.

News from the fridge. Don't ask me what the title means, I don't know. (Sort of like who was the killer in The Big Sleep.

Posted by Phil 2006-08-31 19:46|| 2006-08-31 19:46|| Front Page Top

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