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2006-09-15 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Terror attack foiled at Karni Crossing
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Posted by Fred 2006-09-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Can't these tunnels be identified by satellite?
Posted by Captain America 2006-09-15 02:14||   2006-09-15 02:14|| Front Page Top

#2 CA -
Not as far as I know. You can ID the openings by thermal contrast, or if they have spread the removed soil around nearby. You might be able to detect some shallow tunnels with an airborne ground penetrating radar, but not from a satellite. Tools not sensitive enough to detect gravitation variations. Contrast between tunnel and surroundings not large enough to make a meaningful magnetic signature - though you might be able to see their power line if they've electified the tunnel (hard to distinguish in an urban, electrified environment, but possibly by some kind of computerized pattern matching?) What other physical properties have I missed that might be remotely sensible?
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2006-09-15 07:31||   2006-09-15 07:31|| Front Page Top

#3 one suggestion - take the water from the treated sewage in Gaza and over-saturate the ground along the border fence. Even the burrowing Paleos can't tunnel in mud, especially that water
Posted by Frank G 2006-09-15 07:42||   2006-09-15 07:42|| Front Page Top

#4 Mighty early for civil engineering, isn't it, Frank? Personally, I suggest just leveling everything for a mile in -- makes the tunnel digging take a lot more effort. If they keep digging, you do another mile. There aren't too many miles available, so you'd eventually get their attention.
Posted by Darrell 2006-09-15 07:49||   2006-09-15 07:49|| Front Page Top

#5 the tunnels are often 15 feet or more below ground. Hard for water to seep that far down. Heat signatures wouldn't show up either. radar woun't detect. plus, their openings are often based inside paleo homes -- which is why Israel bulldozes the ones closer to the border.
Posted by PlanetDan">PlanetDan  2006-09-15 10:37||   2006-09-15 10:37|| Front Page Top

#6 In more hospitable areas, tunnels can be detected by the lack of water in the soil and the effect of that loss to plant life. It's hard to use that technique in a desert.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2006-09-15 20:16|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2006-09-15 20:16|| Front Page Top

#7 Recently the Israeli found a a tunnel 800 meters in length dug to a depth of 17 meters. So I suppose that moving everyone a mile out will make it more difficult but not impossible.

What about sound detectors? I remember reading in WW2 the Germans used that method.

Posted by Bernardz 2006-09-15 23:07||   2006-09-15 23:07|| Front Page Top

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