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2006-09-20 Science & Technology

Colorado St prof disputes global warming is human-caused

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Posted by Speater Flump2829 2006-09-20 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I've yet to see a single one of the "Anthropogenic Dangerous Global Warming" (ADGW) evangelists actually deal with the proven fact that there have been warmer climates than we are experiencing now more than once in human history - at times before there was any consumption of fossil fuels.

When Pielke says, "But its prudent to take actions that both minimize human effect on the climate and also make ourselves much more resilient he is being a bad scientist. Since we know that the climate has been as warm if not warmer than it is today in the absence of human use of fossil fuels, he is stating as fact something which is almost instantly refutable. One must therefore logically conclude that either a) he is incompetent as a scientist or b) he has an agenda to which he is purposely subverting the truth.

Furthermore, we all know the means of achieving the minimalization and versatility he mentions, and it isn't the free market. It's more government, more regulation, more taxation, and a less free market. Not to mention lots of public sector gravy train money for scientists promoting ADGW.

When seen in this light, the whole ADGW belief system can be summed up as consisting of two groups. The first is unscrupulous and careless scientists who have a financial stake in getting as many politicians and as large a sector of the public as possible to believe in their theories.

The other is people who want a socialist and highly regulated market anyways, and, having run out of public concern for poverty, race relations, etc. as reasons to get there, see ADGW as the next cause celebre to push easliy frightened voters to support said endpoint (see Al Gore).

Posted by no mo uro 2006-09-20 06:00|| 2006-09-20 06:00|| Front Page Top

#2 When Gray started objecting to global wariming when Bill and Al were in office, his federal funds suddenly dried up.

I thought only Bush was bad for science.

Posted by Bobby 2006-09-20 06:21|| 2006-09-20 06:21|| Front Page Top

#3 I've yet to see a single one of the "Anthropogenic Dangerous Global Warming" (ADGW) evangelists actually deal with the proven fact that there have been warmer climates than we are experiencing now more than once in human history - at times before there was any consumption of fossil fuels.

The typical response is like LH's: "This time, it's different!" Which, frankly, is just magical thinking.

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2006-09-20 07:17|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-09-20 07:17|| Front Page Top

#4 Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle and Michael Flynn wrote a book called Fallen Angels, where the Greens have taken over the US and institute all sorts of insane anti-global warming policies while glaciers have overrun Canada and are invading the US. Not a serious science heavy SF book, it's still an entertaining read about what life under the greenies might be like.

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2006-09-20 08:03|| 2006-09-20 08:03|| Front Page Top

#5 SilentBrick

It's available for free online at Baen books. I read it there.

National Socialism (Nazis)
International Socialism (Commies)
Planetary Socialism (Greenies)

Posted by Bright Pebbles in Blairistan 2006-09-20 08:53|| 2006-09-20 08:53|| Front Page Top

#6 Interesting observation, Mr. Pebbles.....

Not seen that before, but I like it!

Posted by Bobby 2006-09-20 09:25|| 2006-09-20 09:25|| Front Page Top

#7 Socialism in all forms sucks and must be eradicated. Preferable violently.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2006-09-20 09:36|| 2006-09-20 09:36|| Front Page Top

#8 Bobby,

The death toll from each form of socialism escalates as well.

Posted by Bright Pebbles in Blairistan 2006-09-20 10:29|| 2006-09-20 10:29|| Front Page Top

#9 Yes the Baen Free Library demonstrates the TRUE EVIL of capitalism, they give you free books, which leads to you buying books and supporting their company.

Baen prints most of the SF books I buy/read.:)

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2006-09-20 10:53|| 2006-09-20 10:53|| Front Page Top

#10 Planetary Socialism (Greenies)
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The death toll from each form of socialism escalates as well.

The death toll in Africa from banning proper use of DDT is probably in the millions.

Posted by Uleamp Slonter8657 2006-09-20 12:45|| 2006-09-20 12:45|| Front Page Top

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