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2006-09-21 Olde Tyme Religion

Submit or die: An offer infidels can't refuse?

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Posted by Fred 2006-09-21 13:29|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Hence, the judgement of Ishmael shall be harsh.

Posted by newc">newc 2006-09-21 14:18|| 2006-09-21 14:18|| Front Page Top

#2 How's this for an offer?

I won't submit, and if you try to make me, you'll die.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2006-09-21 16:18|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2006-09-21 16:18|| Front Page Top

#3 you can't reason with a fanatic.

Which leaves?

Posted by Shung Glith9420 2006-09-21 16:48|| 2006-09-21 16:48|| Front Page Top

#4 In Iran, the powerful imam Ahmad Khatami said the pope "should fall on his knees in front of a senior Muslim cleric." In no culture of which I am aware is that a posture from which brother addresses brother.

This guy has obviously never been to San Francisco's Castro District.

Similarly, on National Public Radio, a George Washington University professor, Seyyed Hossein Nasr, argued that statements such as those quoted by the pope _ expressing sentiments some Muslims may find offensive _ must be viewed as a form of violence.

Cool beans, reciprocity time, baby. All of your insanely violent ravings are now considered to be "a form of violence" against the West as well. Now, try and remember who holds all the nuclear weapons while you squawk this outrageous vomit, because this means a single speech by one of your mad-dog imams is casus belli for us to bomb the living crap out of you.

Based on shari'a law, dhimmis are meant to "feel themselves subdued," to acknowledge their inferiority compared to Muslims.

In some ways, we already have done so. For example, Muslims are welcome in the Vatican, even as Christians are banned from setting foot in Mecca. We do not object to Saudis building mosques in America and Europe even as they prohibit churches and synagogues on Arabian soil.

Which was one of Benedict's earliest points and one that I applaud the most. Islam permits no freedom of religion. Witness the case of Abdul Rahman, an Afghani Christian condemned to death, despite Afghanistan's agreement to the UN human rights accord which specifies freedom of religion.

The practice of Islam must be outlawed in all countries that provide for religious freedom until such a time where Muslim majority countries protect freedom of religion for people of all faiths. Otherwise, all we do is enable a fascist ideology to expand without the least reciprocation.

Most of the world's Muslims are neither rioting nor calling for the death of the pontiff. But quite a few may reason that if Christians and Jews haven't the confidence to reject dhimmitude and defend freedom, they would be foolish to stick their necks out. After all, a Muslim who challenges the Islamic extremeists brands himself as an apostate _ as deserving of death as any uppity pope.

BULLSHIT ALERT: This is where the buck must stop. We must ensure that the punishment for not sticking their necks out first far exceeds any potential penalty we might face.

This is why I advocate near-total disregard for Moderate Muslims until they self-motivate. We have not the time nor energy to uplift this millstone around our necks. Without any palpable ROI Moderate Muslims are worth less to us than a submarine with screen doors.

This is not to say that Moderate Muslims cannot play a positive role, but that they themselves must assume the mantle of authority in fighting jihadist imams and radicals within their religion. If they refuse or cannot bring themselves to do so, then we have far more important things at hand with respect to thwarting Islam than piddling away our time coddling a bunch of reluctant rebels.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-09-21 21:38|| 2006-09-21 21:38|| Front Page Top

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