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2006-09-29 Iraq

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Posted by Steve White 2006-09-29 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 STRATEGYPAGE.com > The Tehran-Baghdad-Kabul Alliance article, on the growing economic interaction between the three nations. Considering the ongoing WAR FOR SUPRIORITY between Shia-Sunni in Iraq, somebody wants more than mere mutually beneficial, Inter-Muslim, State-State "economic" collusion.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-09-29 00:14|| 2006-09-29 00:14|| Front Page Top

#2 40 Torture Victims Found in Baghdad
Come all yee faithful Ramadan is here.

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Posted by RD 2006-09-29 00:28|| 2006-09-29 00:28|| Front Page Top

#3 Nobody ever tells us the context of these killings. Who were the victims? Were they killed because their name was Omar or because they used to work as Baath torturers? Because they were educated and thus a 'threat', or because they were the 'wrong' religion for a given neighborhood? I am sure there are killings in all of the above categories and more, but to understand the nature of the violence we need more information.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2006-09-29 07:18|| 2006-09-29 07:18|| Front Page Top

#4 From Zeyad at http://healingiraq.blogspot.com/ we get some of that information.
1. Two Sunni women are abducted from their home in a generally Shia neighborhood and murdered.
2. A Sunni group retaliates by blowing up a group of Shia getting kerosene.
3. A group of Sunnis were 'arrested' at a wedding and later found executed.

Sounds like the Hatfields and the McCoys, writ large.

Then he adds that a large number of top surgeons and physicians are being kidnapped and murdered, seemingly by Mahdi Army. This sounds like Khmer Rouge strategy of eliminating the educated; as such, it is the biggest threat to Iraqi recovery. And it may be used as a model by other groups in other places (a slow-motion, non-violent equivalent is going on in the schools and universities of the West.)

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2006-09-29 09:50|| 2006-09-29 09:50|| Front Page Top

#5 I can only wonder what kind of torture these scumbags are carrying out over there. I'll hazard a guess and say it's far worse than the "torture" we've been blamed for in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. The recent transfer of control at an Iraqi prison from American forces to the Iraqis (can't remember which prison right now), which had the prisoners begging for the Americans to come back, only reinforces my suspicions.

I'm not saying we don't engage in our fair share of violence and bloodshed. But our guys will just kill you straight up, no chaser. We don't get off on torture before killing someone. The closest we will ever come to torture is coercive interrogation to squeeze some intel out of a bad guy.

That is what seperates us from them. I'm not saying we are the best humanity has to offer, but at least we try. I wish I could say the same for the Iraqis right now.

I hate to generalize, really I do, but the kind of people who gleefully carry out the crudest and most sadistic torture as a means to gratify their perverted sense of vengeance is indicative of the kind of human beings we are trying to deal with over there. The ignorant and appeasing Liberals don't seem to grasp this reality. Which I've always found surprising since the Liberals in many ways have the most at stake in this war.

I can't believe I'm about to say this here but I consider myself a Liberal (in the more classic sense of the term). I'm a low-tax, balanced-budget, small-government, patriotic Liberal who believes in the nobility of this country and how it came to be (I guess that really makes me a Libertarian?). I also happen to favor taking the fight to our enemies, killing terrorists, self-proclaimed jihadists, and the islamofascists before they get a chance to kill us, and confronting terrorist sympathizers and supporters harshly. In other words, it's precisely because of my more liberal values that I so fully support President Bush's war effort. I imagine the folks here at Rantburg understand what I'm talking about as opposed to the left wing Democrats who can't seem to see the forest through the trees.

Posted by eltoroverde 2006-09-29 11:50|| 2006-09-29 11:50|| Front Page Top

#6 eltoroverde, a great many of us never voted Republican until after 9/11, and now vote Republican party line so long as the Democrats refuse to understand what's at stake. Some of us are still registered members of the Democratic Party, in the vain (it seems to me) hope that others are as capable of understanding as we.

Posted by trailing wife 2006-09-29 17:32|| 2006-09-29 17:32|| Front Page Top

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