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2006-10-03 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Palestinian group threatens to kill Hamas leaders
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Posted by tu3031 2006-10-03 16:11|| || Front Page|| [9 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Faster, please!
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2006-10-03 17:18||   2006-10-03 17:18|| Front Page Top

#2 Oh yeah? I dare ya...I double dawg dare ya!
Posted by Rex Mundi 2006-10-03 17:45||   2006-10-03 17:45|| Front Page Top

#3 Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of psychotic genocidal parasitic murderous child-killing shitheads.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-03 17:46||   2006-10-03 17:46|| Front Page Top

#4 Quick, Israel, return all those detained leaders before the shooting starts!
Posted by gorb 2006-10-03 17:51||   2006-10-03 17:51|| Front Page Top

#5 Let's you and him fight.
Posted by Pencilneck 2006-10-03 17:56||   2006-10-03 17:56|| Front Page Top

#6 Zenster, please add the descriptor "pedofilic" to your rant if you would.
Posted by Besoeker 2006-10-03 18:01||   2006-10-03 18:01|| Front Page Top

#7 #6: It's understood. :-)
Posted by gorb 2006-10-03 18:56||   2006-10-03 18:56|| Front Page Top

#8 "Palestinian group threatens to kill Hamas leaders"

promises, promises
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2006-10-03 19:26|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]  2006-10-03 19:26|| Front Page Top

#9 Religion of Peace.
Posted by Darrell 2006-10-03 19:34||   2006-10-03 19:34|| Front Page Top

#10 Ok, ignorant limey here, but please, what does 'going to the mattresses' mean?

(I know I'm gonna regret this)
Posted by Tony (UK) 2006-10-03 19:42||   2006-10-03 19:42|| Front Page Top

#11 Butter, check. Salt, check. Popcorn, check. Soda, check. Yep, I'm all ready to sit back and watch this civil war get underway!
Posted by WhiteCollarRedneck 2006-10-03 19:49||   2006-10-03 19:49|| Front Page Top

#12 Matresses are often used in shootouts as a layer of defense against incoming gunfire.

It is also a decent play on words regarding the time-honored and more worthy saying of "going to the mat" over something worth fighting for, as opposed to these thugs "going to the (much softer) matresses" for their usual lunchtime round of cowardly bloodshed.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-03 19:52||   2006-10-03 19:52|| Front Page Top

#13 Tony, in 1930 US Gang wars, gunmen would hide out in sparsely furnished houses, having little more than mattresses to sleep on.

The expression means the (gang) war is on in earnest.
Posted by phil_b 2006-10-03 19:52||   2006-10-03 19:52|| Front Page Top

#14 Mob warfare, Tony. Mattresses used as shields. As seen in The Godfather, The Godfather II, The Godfather III...
Posted by Darrell 2006-10-03 19:52||   2006-10-03 19:52|| Front Page Top

#15 Aw shit, Tony. You may not be able to understand my writing. Please change defense to "defence" and honored to "honoured".
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-10-03 19:55||   2006-10-03 19:55|| Front Page Top

#16 Tony: Ok, ignorant limey here, but please, what does 'going to the mattresses' mean?

(I know I'm gonna regret this)

Here:

Meaning

Prepare for a battle or adopt a warlike stance.

Origin

San Miniato al Monte

Consider these two tales:

In 1530 the combined troops of Charles V and Medici Pope Clement VII lay siege to Florence. The bell tower of San Miniato al Monte was part of the defences. Michelangelo Buonarroti, as he was good at most things, was put in charge of defending the city. He used the ploy of hanging mattresses on the outside of the tower to minimize damage from cannon fire.

In times of war or siege, Italian families would vacate their homes and rent apartments in safer areas. In order to protect themselves they would hire soldiers to sleep on the floor in shifts.

Ordinarily we would want to verify such stories before publishing them here as part of a phrase derivation. In this case though it isn't really important. The meaning of the phrase turns on the association in Italian folk-memory of mattresses with safety in wartime. The phrase wasn't well known outside of the USA and Italy prior to the Godfather movies. It was used there, and later in The Sopranos television series, to mean 'preparing for battle'. Whether or not the stories that originated it are true doesn't alter the fact that the screenwriters of those films used them in that context.

Here's the dialogue from Godfather:

Clemenza:

That Sonny's runnin' wild. He's thinking of going to the mattresses already.

Sonny:

No, no, no! No more! Not this time, consiglieri. No more meetings, no more discussions, no more Sollozzo tricks. You give 'em one message: I want Sollozzo. If not, it's all-out war: we go to the mattresses.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2006-10-03 20:03|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2006-10-03 20:03|| Front Page Top

#17 ya know? If you had some internal, say, economy besides foreign aid, you might be able to give everyone the finger. As it is, the EU will suck dick and provide Euros as a symbol of thir dhimmitude, but that won't last. Might think about building....a nation? With an economy, an economic base, and such? The Jooooos were able to do a lot with the tiny portion of Gaza they cultivated, but you....destroyed that, didn't you? Go figure
Posted by Frank G 2006-10-03 20:03||   2006-10-03 20:03|| Front Page Top

#18 I stand corrected - I didn't regret it! ;)

Thanks guys, I can now go to my own mattress somewhat enlightened (it's late here) - cheers!

Oh, and to remain slightly on topic - it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of 'people'.
Posted by Tony (UK) 2006-10-03 20:08||   2006-10-03 20:08|| Front Page Top

#19 "Going to the mattresses" means secret location while in war with another Family. The term is derived from the temporary war-time hideouts in which the Family's soldiers sleep on mattresses en masse.

Source
Posted by phil_b 2006-10-03 20:21||   2006-10-03 20:21|| Front Page Top

#20 IMO, the question that needs to be addressed here at Rantburg is: if they keep their promise of killing Hamas leaders---are they entitled to piza?
Posted by gromgoru 2006-10-03 20:34||   2006-10-03 20:34|| Front Page Top

#21 Of course, gromgoru -- with slices of pepperoni and Italian pork sausages!
Posted by trailing wife 2006-10-03 21:48||   2006-10-03 21:48|| Front Page Top

#22 I'd buy some, but not deep dish, and of ephemeral satisfaction....
Posted by Frank G 2006-10-03 22:27||   2006-10-03 22:27|| Front Page Top

#23 if they keep their promise of killing Hamas leaders---are they entitled to piza?

what part of piza Grom?
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Posted by RD 2006-10-03 22:44||   2006-10-03 22:44|| Front Page Top

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