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2006-10-12 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by Fred 2006-10-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Just gave away the biggest leverage for no gain.

Posted by ed 2006-10-12 00:13|| 2006-10-12 00:13|| Front Page Top

#2 Or helping to expose Kimmie for who he really is.

Posted by gorb 2006-10-12 02:58|| 2006-10-12 02:58|| Front Page Top

#3 What leverage? The NKors know we won't sacrifice Seoul for a strike on them, unless it is a full-blown retalitory strike for a nuclear attack, or they have crossed the DMZ in a major attack. Otherwise, they have a few million hostages in Seoul, thanks to South Korean internal politics which prevented the moving of the capital further south.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2006-10-12 04:03|| 2006-10-12 04:03|| Front Page Top

#4 Ask any poker player how easy it is to bluff if all your cards are on the table.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-10-12 04:28|| 2006-10-12 04:28|| Front Page Top

#5 Reading comprehension 101. Parse this for 10 points:

"...reserves all options..."

C'mon, folks. This is the Seattle PI. What they "report" usually bears only a passing resemblance to reality. Journalism 101: compose the headline you want and then write the story to fit. Bury or just omit the inconvenient bits.

Here's the same story as reported by the Chicago Tribune:
Bush warns North of `repercussions'
Sure, it's not a barn-burning leather-slapping nuke 'em today response, but it's certainly taking the middle road between. Right?

And from The Australian:
N Korea faces serious repercussions: Bush
Okay, now it's serious, lol.

Now, how did we do on parsing the phrase? Everybody get it? Swell.

Posted by .com 2006-10-12 07:26|| 2006-10-12 07:26|| Front Page Top

#6 It's more clever than that -- the NKors have been screeching for years about their 'need' for a 'non-aggression' pact with us, the obstensible reason being that they're afraid we'll attack them.

GWB just took that off the table. No need for a pact, we don't plan to attack you.

Now then, about those nukes and the counterfeiting ...

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2006-10-12 10:22|| 2006-10-12 10:22|| Front Page Top

#7 Texas Taqqiya. Good on him.

Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-10-12 11:50|| 2006-10-12 11:50|| Front Page Top

#8 It's said the US has never lost on the battle field and never won at the negotiating table. All the president's statement about ruling out attacking NK does is reset the negotiating bar by taking away the ultimate and, in the final analysis, the only threat the US has.

The mistake in US negotiating tactics is to assume all actors have a desire to come to agreement and meet somewhere in the middle. False and deadly conceit. For most of the world, negotiations are just another way to defeat your enemy; all the better if no shot is fired in the process.

And it's not "We won't attack you, now about those nukes." It becomes "So you won't attack us. Now let's talk about giving me new plutonium producing reactors and all the other goodies."

All this NK fiasco has done is show Iran that it has nothing to fear from the US. It's now nukes for everyone who wants them. Isn't that gonna be an interesting world?

Prez Bush conference:
The United States affirmed that we have no nuclear weapons on the Korean Peninsula. We affirmed that we have no intention of attacking North Korea. With its actions this week, North Korea has once again chosen to reject the prospect for a better future offered by the six-party joint statement. Instead, it has opted to raise tensions in the region.

I'm pleased that the nations in the region are making clear to North Korea what is at stake. I thank China, South Korea, Japan, and Russia for their strong statements of condemnation of North Korea's actions. Peace on the Korean Peninsula requires that these nations send a clear message to Pyongyang that its actions will not be tolerated, and I appreciate their leadership.

The United States remains committed to diplomacy. The United States also reserves all options to defend our friends and our interests in the region against the threats from North Korea. So, in response to North Korea's provocation, we'll increase defense cooperation with our allies, including cooperation on ballistic missile defense to protect against North Korean aggression, and cooperation to prevent North Korea from exporting nuclear and missile technologies.

Our goals remain clear: peace and security in Northeast Asia and a nuclear-free Korean Peninsula. We will take the necessary actions to achieve these goals. We will work with the United Nations. We'll support our allies in the region. And together, we will ensure that North Korea understands the consequences if it continues down its current path.

1. No attacking NK.
2. Increase defense cooperation with allies.
3. Nuclear-free Korean Peninsula: Too late. Horse is out of the barn. Coop with UN is counterproductive.
4. Prevent North Korea from exporting nuclear and missile technologies: NK is already exporting missiles and missile technologies without interference and cooperation of China and Russia. China and Russia already export nuclear tech to Iran and Pakistan which then spread further. Why would they hinder NK from doing what they already do?

Posted by ed 2006-10-12 13:34|| 2006-10-12 13:34|| Front Page Top

#9 Word, ed.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-10-12 16:02|| 2006-10-12 16:02|| Front Page Top

#10 We should offer the following: they dismantle and turn over their nukes and end their nuclear program. They agree to inspections to verify same.

We pull ALL of our troops off the Korean peninsula. And wish our friends in South Korea to "have a nice day".

Posted by DMFD 2006-10-12 22:14|| 2006-10-12 22:14|| Front Page Top

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