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2006-12-07 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by DanNY 2006-12-07 06:54|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 At the visitor center have the now unclassified message traffic from the Japanese west coast consulates on display reporting the successful recruiting of locals. Show the 1941 concentration of all of America's military aircraft production around the LA and Seattle area. Then post the wartime findings of the Supreme Court of the United States on the issue concerning the right of the government to act. We want the 'whole' truth don't we?

Posted by Procopius2k 2006-12-07 08:43|| 2006-12-07 08:43|| Front Page Top

#2 If I remember my history correctly Italians and Germans were also under threat of internment if they didn't move into the US interior. Many moved or enlisted and avoided the internment problem associated with the Japanese.

And then there is the Japanese-American Go For Broke boys. Heros one and all. I'm amazed Hollywood hasn't remade the movie about them.

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-12-07 10:55|| 2006-12-07 10:55|| Front Page Top

#3 Not worth remembering, apparently: Japanese mass rape-camps, Japanese bubonic plague attacks on China, Japanese babies-on-bayonet games in Nanjing, Japanese rape of nurses and patients at Hong Kong's central hospital, Japanese death marches, Japanese cannibalism of downed USAF pilots (including very nearly President GHW Bush), Japanese sexual-medical experimentation on Russian prisoners of war, etc. etc. etc.

Posted by Excalibur 2006-12-07 11:36|| 2006-12-07 11:36|| Front Page Top

#4 Was the decision of interning Japense-Americans justified yes, yes and yes

We have to remember that for instance, the outnumbered American fleet was able to crush the Japense at Midway only because the Japanese didn't knew the Ameicans were waiting for them. In fact Yamamoto's plan wasn't absurd but based on false premises: he had set submarines and seaplanes for watching American carriers but there were American ships watching the island who had been assigned as staging ground for the seaplanes so they wern't able to operate, for the submarines, when they arrived in front of the American ports the carriers had alrady sailed away. That is why the Japanse fleet was sccattered over thousands of miles with the battleships faaaar way from teh carriers and unable to use their Flak in their defence: because Yamamoto thought American carriers were still at Pearl Harbor. Now imagine that one, only one Japanese had been able tp warn his compatriots about the departure of the American carriers. The Japanse flet would have concentrated sdo the Dauntlesses who surprised and sunk four Japanese carriers would have had to meet the battleship's falk, would have failed and Midway would have been lost. End result would have been tens of thousands more Americans killed: not merely those of Hornet, Enetrprise and Yorktown but also those who would have died regaining the grouns seized by the Japanese after Americans' defeat.

You can discuss the conditionbs of internement of Japanse and Japanses Americans (BTW, infintely better than thnose of wresternbers who happenned to be in Japan or in lands she conqueered befi before Midway), but not about the de cison of interning them. Also if before teh war Japanese Americans had made it clear they were not Japanse but Americans: people who really meant what they were saying when they took the Oath of Citizenship "I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen" then there would have been no need to intern them or at least they would have received better treatment.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2006-12-07 12:15|| 2006-12-07 12:15|| Front Page Top

#5 It's so easy to look back on any volatile part of history w/21st century eyes and a monday morning qb mentality. It's much harder to make the unpopular decision and do what's right for the country. Though I might get flamed for this - I don't have a problem w/what FDR did. He did what he had to for that period of time. Just like Lincoln 80 yrs prior.

A little piece of history worth noting methinks, pls take it fwiw: During WWII, at the same time FDR ordered the interment camps, several S.American countries had some significant Japanese immigrant populations. The history mentions that those countries shipping lanes took a bigger hit from Jap subs during the war than ever the Americans did, and there were more than a few sabotage operations carried out within their countries. There were no internment camps in S.America for newly arrived Japanese. Experts tend to agree that the local Japanese residents were spying on Brazilian and other S.American countries and relaying said info to Japanese imperial agents. I'd have to google for more details, but I remember some of this off the top of my head from an old article in some WWII mag. I thought it was interesting.

Posted by Broadhead6 2006-12-07 15:17|| 2006-12-07 15:17|| Front Page Top

#6 I suggest we load three carriers with liberals and we send them for a reenactment of Midway except that this time thanks to a Japanese informant the Japanese know the Americans have sailed.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2006-12-07 15:37|| 2006-12-07 15:37|| Front Page Top

#7 The internment was right. So was using the atomic bomb on Japan. The Japs didn't fight like civilized Western countries and made no bones about it, therefore they had no claim to be treated like a civilized Western country. The thrice-damned idiots who keep spouting this PC nonsense deserve a year in a WWII Japanese-run prison camp like Changi. Once having seen and experienced a REAL prison camp, if they survived (and many wouldn't), I haven't the slightest doubt but that they'd emerge with a diametrically different outlook.

Posted by mac 2006-12-07 17:27|| 2006-12-07 17:27|| Front Page Top

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