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2007-01-15 Home Front: WoT
Key legislators threaten funds for nuclear weapons overhaul
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Posted by Steve White 2007-01-15 12:04|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 It also makes it harder to take out our nuclear weapons manufacturing capability to spread the facilities around. I don't think this is just politicaly motivated.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2007-01-15 12:26||   2007-01-15 12:26|| Front Page Top

#2 Some people need to learn that they're only a small PART of the government, not the be-all and end-all. These two congresscritters need to have a "come to Jesus" moment with a half-dozen very large men in black suits.

We have eight nuke warhead manufacturing spots in the United States (down from 14). All of them are dated, because we've been building nukes for 60 years or more. Most have been updated at least a few times. Consolidating all our nuke warhead manufacturing facilities in one or two locations (Hobson's and Visclosky's recommendations) doesn't make military or economic sense. Playing political games such as trying to withhold funding to get their single-minded ideas through also doesn't make sense.

The idiots that say our manufacturing and maintaining nuclear weapons "sends the wrong message" are nothing but defeatniks. They live in a dream world of their own manufacture. We live in a hostile world, one getting more hostile all the time. Not only do we need nuke weapons, we need the courage to use them when needed.

I'm beginning to think we're going to have to have a second revolution to eliminate all the stupidity in Washington. It may not take another 200 years for that stupidity to be reborn, but it won't happen overnight.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2007-01-15 13:18|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2007-01-15 13:18|| Front Page Top

#3 Not to mention that keeping the old nukes somewhat blowable is getting incredibly expensive. Better to have new, smaller and cheaper ones that are within the operational lifetime.
Posted by DarthVader 2007-01-15 13:56||   2007-01-15 13:56|| Front Page Top

#4 Pay now or pay (more) later...
Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek  2007-01-15 14:06||   2007-01-15 14:06|| Front Page Top

#5 Efficiencies in manufacturing are commendable, but sometimes there are over-riding concerns. National security is probably one of those. Part of the problem, IMHO, is that the congresscritters have tasted some success in the consolidation of our armed forces (thanks BRAC) and want to extend that to EVERYTHING governmental. If you place all your eggs in one, or few baskets, it just gets easier for the bad guys to hurt you.
Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-01-15 14:24||   2007-01-15 14:24|| Front Page Top

#6 I wonder if Hobson's district is the one with the great-big nuclear processing plant...

Apparently not. It doesn't even appear to contain the old Miamisburg plant.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2007-01-15 15:27|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2007-01-15 15:27|| Front Page Top

#7 So then Hobson had nothing to lose.
Posted by Bobby 2007-01-15 16:16||   2007-01-15 16:16|| Front Page Top

#8 "I wonder if Hobson's district is the one with the great-big nuclear processing plant"


"Can you say Piketown....gaseous difusion plant
Posted by TZsenator 2007-01-15 21:54||   2007-01-15 21:54|| Front Page Top

#9 So we have two goals for nuclear weapons upgrades:

1. Security---One plant is too few. An enemy OR a serious accident could take out our manufacturing capability.

2. Cost---Eight separate nuclear weapons manufacturing facilities are redundant and cost too much.

So, it seems to me that the answer is between 1 and eight. How much security do you want? What are the threats and dangers that nuclear weapons will be used against? Also what are the threats facing the manufacturing facilities? Once you identify the threats and decide on your level of security, the numbers will come out. Form follows function. We need some good discussions between Congress and the DoE people involved in this issue. And grandstanding before the press is a no-no in this issue.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2007-01-15 22:07||   2007-01-15 22:07|| Front Page Top

#10 Piketon, Ohio has a sister plant in Paducha, KY...FYI
Posted by TZsenator 2007-01-15 22:11||   2007-01-15 22:11|| Front Page Top

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