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2007-02-05 Science & Technology

Against the grain: Some scientists deny global warming exists

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Posted by anonymous5089 2007-02-05 07:02|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 They must be silenced!

William Gray, the hurricane forecaster, had his funding cut off after he 'denied' global warming. The President at the time was not the science-ignorer Bush, but the author of "An Inconvenient Truth" and his boss, Slick Willie.

Posted by Bobby 2007-02-05 08:42|| 2007-02-05 08:42|| Front Page Top

#2 Even research from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change-- the United Nations agency that heads the worldwide effort to combat global warming -- is bereft of anything here inspiring confidence. In fact, according to the IPCC's own findings, man's role is so uncertain that there is a strong possibility that we have been cooling, not warming, the Earth. Unfortunately, our tools are too crude to reveal what man's effect has been in the past, let alone predict how much warming or cooling we might cause in the future.

Posted by Bobby 2007-02-05 08:44|| 2007-02-05 08:44|| Front Page Top

#3 Idistinctly remember NASA saying that "Global warming exists, on Mars, Hey Algore, explain that "Inconvenient Truth"

Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-02-05 09:04|| 2007-02-05 09:04|| Front Page Top

#4 I believe that UFOs are causing global warming with their craft emissions to destroy humanity so they can take over. We must shoot down all flying things immediately.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-02-05 09:13|| 2007-02-05 09:13|| Front Page Top

#5 This headline is deceptive, in that, unlike those who embrace "man-made" global warming as a religion that will give them power, those who question their religion have different viewpoints:

1) That global warming exists, but as a short-term natural cyclic event, alternating with global cooling.

2) That global warming exists, but as a long-term natural cyclic event.

3) That global warming and global cooling exist in an overall balanced system, which can be temporarily influenced by major events such as massive volcanic eruptions, but then returns to balance.

4) That the models and projections are too inaccurate and primitive to tell, one way or another. That unless it is scientifically established it cannot be proclaimed as the truth.

5) And, of course, in addition to these reasonable arguments against "man-made" global warming, there are kooks who are just as un-scientific in their opposition to the religion.

Both sides have some level of funding by those with vested interests, each trying to subvert the real science of climatology as much as they can.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-02-05 09:36|| 2007-02-05 09:36|| Front Page Top

#6 I can tell you for a fact there are hundreds of US atmospheric scientists that are barred by law from joing the fray against "man caused global warming".

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2007-02-05 10:35|| 2007-02-05 10:35|| Front Page Top

#7 I follow global climate change very closely. There's been some interesting discoveries in the last three or four years, and it doesn't support anthropogenic (man-caused) global warming. The entire global warming meme has been good in one respect - it's forced us to do some serious study of earth and its climate. The battle's not over, but at the moment the Kyoto crowd is having its blocks knocked from under it.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2007-02-05 12:08|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2007-02-05 12:08|| Front Page Top

#8 Old Patriot

Gerbil Worming is costing 4 billion USD per year. I'd say some pretty serious real science could be done with that amount.

Posted by Bright Pebbles in Blairistan 2007-02-05 12:52|| 2007-02-05 12:52|| Front Page Top

#9 Anymouse, any chance you're in that group?

Posted by Shipman 2007-02-05 15:57|| 2007-02-05 15:57|| Front Page Top

#10 If so, Happy WeatherPerson Day!

Posted by Shipman 2007-02-05 15:58|| 2007-02-05 15:58|| Front Page Top

#11 Ship...Yes.

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2007-02-05 16:34|| 2007-02-05 16:34|| Front Page Top

#12 Another fact that enviro-fascists always omit is that plants LOVE CO2.

CO2 levels have been declining over the last 200 My. Over the last 500 My CO2 levels have ranged 3-5x as high as they are now, both during relatively cool and warm periods.

Further CO2 levels have gone slowly down and then sharply up FOUR times in the last 400,000 years. There is no evidence that the current climate trends are fundamentally driven by human activity. There is ample evidence that the planet's climate is ALWAYS changing, over geological ages; scientists still don't quite understand why this has kept happening.

I for one am glad I don't live in an Ice Age. We wouldn't have enjoyed the agricultural revolution and industrial revolution without the global warming that started 12,000 years ago.

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2007-02-05 18:02|| 2007-02-05 18:02|| Front Page Top

#13 The truth is that the world's climate is warming and cooling, it depends on the baseline you choose, i.e. the point you start measuring from.

The above statement is true at all times, except when the climate is at its hottest and coolest point in the last 4 billion years (or whatever).

Posted by phil_b 2007-02-05 18:10|| 2007-02-05 18:10|| Front Page Top

#14 I am personally quite happy to play along with Global Warming just until we get the US nuclear industry back on track. If, in the meantime, people want to buy hybrid cars and groan about the evils of air conditioning I'll happily nod along (or nod off). We need nuclear energy, and Global Warming is providing the useful idiots necessary to get it.

Posted by Iblis 2007-02-05 18:52|| 2007-02-05 18:52|| Front Page Top

#15 Environ-activists on CNN's were calling for direct Govt intervention and control of the issue, to include some form of profess punishment-censure for those whom argue agz Mankind being the Cause = Sole/Primary Cause of GW. LEFT > NO LONGER A DEBATE - ARE DEMANDING GOVT AND ONLY GOVT CONTROL NOW. You know, why the WOT = 9-11 is about Radical Islam and only Radical Islam.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-02-05 19:29|| 2007-02-05 19:29|| Front Page Top

#16 Kalle: An interesting twist to CO2 discovered a while back, is that plants breathe in CO2 through pores in their leaves. They have to open their pores to inhale, and when they do so, it lets water evaporate. When there is more CO2, they don't need to open their pores as much, so they need less water.

Needing less water, they absorb less from the ground. In turn, this frees up water for other plants to use. So if there is a lot of CO2 in the atmosphere, you get a lot more plants, and the ground becomes moister.

So more CO2 means more plants, and less desert. Because CO2 is their food, plants also tend to grow larger, as long as there is plenty of sunlight to convert CO2 to sugar.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-02-05 21:16|| 2007-02-05 21:16|| Front Page Top

#17 I know it gets warmer and cooler here every day.
Should I be keeping records ?
Who do I report to ?
Global warming seems to go around the earth following the Sun, therefore, global warming is tidal, and caused by the moon.

Posted by wxjames 2007-02-05 21:28|| 2007-02-05 21:28|| Front Page Top

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