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2007-02-19 Europe

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Posted by John Frum 2007-02-19 13:14|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Good read, thanks.

Posted by anonymous5089 2007-02-19 13:22|| 2007-02-19 13:22|| Front Page Top

#2 He's not always my cup of tea, but one guy who was absolutely correct about this from Day One was Michael Savage.

Posted by Shaiter Thrick2337 2007-02-19 13:32|| 2007-02-19 13:32|| Front Page Top

#3 That was illuminating.

Posted by Penguin 2007-02-19 14:20|| 2007-02-19 14:20|| Front Page Top

#4 excellent read, indeed!

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-02-19 14:32|| 2007-02-19 14:32|| Front Page Top

#5 I have been saying it from time to time in this blog that you Americans had been lied about the shole Yugoslavian affair and that there were no good croats and Muslims against eeeeeviol Serbs.

Now imagine you are a Serb living in Croatia and they tell you that you are supposed to live in state who is electinfg Franco Tudjman an open admirer of the anti-Serb genocidical Ustachis. And that he plans to restore the Ustachi flag as the new flag of Croatia?

Suppose you are a Serb living in Bosnia and they say your future president will be Iitzbzkovic a former member of the SS Handschar division? That his propganda depicts a Muslim warrior whose horse is trampling a Christian?

Are you going to just wait until the killers come for you? Or are you going to flee (if you are weak) or secede (if you are the majority in your county)?

That was the dilemma of the Serbs I know they perpetrated massacres. Just as the others would have done had they been the strongest.

And consider theese two facts: on one aoccasion the press published a photo of Muslims behind barbed wire telling they were in Serb concentratuion camps. In fact they weren't behind but in front of them. The barbed wire was circling a meadow and the journalists were inside it.

On another occasion a mortar shell landed in the market of Sarajevo, caused several dozen dead. Now you could have wondered how Serbs were able to hit the market with such precison with a wepon as imprecise as a mortar. Alo, but that wasxn't told by the MSM, allied artillery radar registered nothing. In addition the wounds were nearly in their totality on the lower half of the victims. That is what happens when what you have is not a mortar shell but a bomb under a table or stand. The aftermath was strong escalation of the allied in behalf of the Muslims.

Now dear Rantburgers you are guilty for not laking your homework. You knew you had been lied by the MSM during Vietnam, that you have been lied by the MSM on Irak but you had continued posting BS here< in Rantburg about Yugoslavia wirthout questionning what the MSM told you.

If you want to become better citizens you should, you really should read two books published in the sixties "The ugly American" and "A nation of sheep" telling about how uninformed Americans were m!anipulated by corrupt local elites in South-East Asai and played in the hands of communism. Despite their age they are still outstanding and IMHO useful for Rantburgers willing to help in the WOT and unwilling to let themselves mnipulated.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2007-02-19 15:30|| 2007-02-19 15:30|| Front Page Top

#6 On another occasion a mortar shell landed in the market of Sarajevo, caused several dozen dead.

And Christianne Amounpour and the CNN crew were right there

Posted by John Frum 2007-02-19 15:35|| 2007-02-19 15:35|| Front Page Top

#7 A voice in the wilderness.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-02-19 15:35|| 2007-02-19 15:35|| Front Page Top

#8 Guilty as charged, although I have to admit to being manipulated by the international press. My apologies, JFM.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-02-19 15:41|| 2007-02-19 15:41|| Front Page Top

#9 Another factor was that it was Clinton's war against the racist, evil Christers. The MSM loved it.

We fell for it (again).

Posted by SR-71 2007-02-19 15:56|| 2007-02-19 15:56|| Front Page Top

#10 Me too, guilty.

Posted by Shipman 2007-02-19 16:47|| 2007-02-19 16:47|| Front Page Top

#11 In addition the wounds were nearly in their totality on the lower half of the victims. That is what happens when what you have is not a mortar shell but a bomb under a table or stand.

Word.

Posted by mrp 2007-02-19 17:45|| 2007-02-19 17:45|| Front Page Top

#12 The story of the Muslims and the SS is well known.

An excerpt from the Jewish Virtual Library:

In 1945, Yugoslavia sought to indict the Mufti as a war criminal for his role in recruiting 20,000 Muslim volunteers for the SS, who participated in the killing of Jews in Croatia and Hungary. He escaped from French detention in 1946, however, and continued his fight against the Jews from Cairo and later Beirut. He died in 1974.

Posted by SwissTex 2007-02-19 18:22|| 2007-02-19 18:22|| Front Page Top

#13 Thanks, JFM - and thanks, Rantburg. That sound you hear is the sound of more scales falling from my eyes.

Posted by xbalanke 2007-02-19 18:31|| 2007-02-19 18:31|| Front Page Top

#14 Good article on the Serbs. I was unaware any Europeans other than Danes protect their Jews.

Also, I was able to understand their 'genetic conditioning" against mohammedeans as they had a long and painful history at the hands of one muslim mob after another, for centuries.

Posted by Brett 2007-02-19 19:28|| 2007-02-19 19:28|| Front Page Top

#15 There aint no good guys in the Balkans. Believe otherwise at your own risk.

Posted by Grunter 2007-02-19 19:44|| 2007-02-19 19:44|| Front Page Top

#16 I second that, Grunter....and I'm half Slovenian.

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