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2007-03-02 Africa North

Gadaffi: West's democracy ill-suited to Africa

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Posted by Fred 2007-03-02 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 On Wednesday Gadaffi described Western politics as a lottery and said the United Nations contained 190 leaders who were not chosen by the people but still oversaw six billion lives. "They got into power through corruption," he said. "Politics for them, of course, involves buying votes in elections."

Gotta admin the old boy does a hell of a blind pig routine.

Posted by Shipman 2007-03-02 01:01|| 2007-03-02 01:01|| Front Page Top

#2 Lest we fergit, PRAVDA > "At least in the Soviet Union the People were [perm] poor but OPTIMISTIC" - you know, when the LARGE, SPACIOUS OCEAN-VIEW DACHAS of Party Leaders/Members alongst the Caspian-Black Sea = equals the decrepit State-subsidized MINOR APARTMENTS OF THE LOYAL MASSES = PEOPLE'S ARMY WORKER-SOLDATS IN SOVIET CITIES. WIth EQUALISM like that, who needs to run off to America, besides only the World!?

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-03-02 01:16|| 2007-03-02 01:16|| Front Page Top

#3 "The peoples of Africa live in tribes and every tribe has a leader, so the system of elections and political parties suits Europe and America more than it does Africa."

Yes, and tribal leaders authorize actions such as those that took place on Dec 21, 1988 as well. Rot in hell you tent dwelling son of a camel spider!

Posted by Besoeker 2007-03-02 02:20|| 2007-03-02 02:20|| Front Page Top

#4 So if he killed Libya's king and put himself in power as a col..... isn't he against the same system he said he was for?

Posted by 3dc 2007-03-02 04:10|| 2007-03-02 04:10|| Front Page Top

#5 From the mouths of 3rd world dictators.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-03-02 04:53|| 2007-03-02 04:53|| Front Page Top

#6 unique system of rule based on grass-roots government

...The only 'grass roots' involved in Gadaffi's government are the one's he's smoking.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2007-03-02 06:57|| 2007-03-02 06:57|| Front Page Top

#7 Gadaffi: West's democracy ill-suited to Africa

Given the hard data, I'd say colonialism seemed to have worked better. After the dust settled the body count was certainly smaller.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-03-02 09:03|| 2007-03-02 09:03|| Front Page Top

#8 The peoples of Africa live in tribes and every tribe has a leader, so the system of elections and political parties suits Europe and America more than it does Africa

Well, considering that is how Rome came up with the republic idea so the tribes could get along...
Dumbass. Him and all of his despot friends need to be sent up the river.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-03-02 10:43|| 2007-03-02 10:43|| Front Page Top

#9 I agree with him. Until the Africans, and Arabs for that matter, are prepared to abandon tribalism and adopt individualism, western type civil society, rule of law, representative democracy will not work, no matter how many elections Carter certifies. It will inevitably degenerate into one man, one vote, one time.

Look at how long it took the Brits to de-tribalize India. I doubt any culture can be externally de-tribalized in less than 160 years, two lifetimes, of external domination and control. The western powers no longer have the faith in themselves or the stomach to take on such a task. So these third world nations will continue to stumble along until they gain the internal will to detribalize. And there are a lot of reasons to suspect this could take a long time without external pressure.

Ultimately, I expect this to occur through another mechanism. More and more individuals will make the decision to leave the turd world for the west. This will grow the west and shrink the rest. The challenge will if the west will abandon the nonsense of racist multi-culturalism and assimilate them. Ultimately the current third world will start to contract into tribal areas that will look more and more similar to American Indian reservations without the benevolent Uncle Sugar. Disease and ignorance will return as previewed by AIDS and bird flu. If the west assimilates the emigrants, they will return to inhabit the periphery and conduct trade for natural resources with the tribes. From that state, things may or may not evolve.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-03-02 10:59|| 2007-03-02 10:59|| Front Page Top

#10 said the United Nations contained 190 leaders who were not chosen by the people but still oversaw six billion lives.

Moammar does have a point there, you know.

Posted by Secret Master 2007-03-02 13:37|| 2007-03-02 13:37|| Front Page Top

#11 Three things are needed for western-style democracy to fluorish - individual freedom, a codified and respected bill of rights, and the acceptance and guarantee of personal property rights. Everything else will build on those. Remember, our Declaration of Independence stated that "to secure these rights, governments are constituted by men". The only way to bring people out of poverty is to give them ownership of their own lives. The acquisition and retention of personal property is essential for the abolition of poverty. The abolition of poverty is essential for the development of representative government. You can't have one without the other, or the strongest man who promises the most gets to be leader-for-life. A good example of this is Mugabe's Zimbabwe.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2007-03-02 15:34|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2007-03-02 15:34|| Front Page Top

#12 I'm not sure that Bob's a good example of anything, Old Patriot.

Posted by Secret Master 2007-03-02 16:26|| 2007-03-02 16:26|| Front Page Top

#13 Ghadawful loves power; everything else is window dressing.

Posted by Sneaze 2007-03-02 20:09|| 2007-03-02 20:09|| Front Page Top

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