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2007-04-24 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Besoeker 2007-04-24 08:31|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 This would be important to me if Wicca wasn't a complete and total modern confabulation of ancient rites and deities.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-04-24 11:26|| 2007-04-24 11:26|| Front Page Top

#2 Doesn't matter, Zen. There's no 'ifs or buts' involved here. They fought and died for us, they get their faith's symbol on their gravestone. It's the very least we can do.

I would also like to note that the Wiccans acted very responsibly throughout this process, they went through the courts and pursued their complaint lawfully and civilly. No hunger strikes, Direct Actions, hostage-taking, seething, whining, pink tshirts or giant puppets. To the best of my knowlege they did not post a Manifesto on DKos, or dress their children in Amerikkka sheets.

Again, this was the right result for these loyal soldiers.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2007-04-24 11:54|| 2007-04-24 11:54|| Front Page Top

#3 I am Christian but know enough history to admit much of the mythology we have built up is itself a complete and total confabulation of ancient rites and deities even it time-tested rather than modern.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-04-24 12:04|| 2007-04-24 12:04|| Front Page Top

#4 I agree with Sea. These folks are Americans. They fought and died to protect us. They can and should be buried under their religious symbol. I thank them for their sacrifice and fear I'm not worthy.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2007-04-24 14:46|| 2007-04-24 14:46|| Front Page Top

#5 Doesn't matter, Zen. There's no 'ifs or buts' involved here. They fought and died for us, they get their faith's symbol on their gravestone. It's the very least we can do.

Nowhere do I disagree. It's just that Wiccanism is so obviously contrived. I've been to several Wiccan covens and they are extremely peaceful events. This was reflected in their proceedings with the military as well. Go ahead, bury them under their preferred symbol, I just have a difficult time awarding it the reverence that they seem to think it merits.

While a seemingly minor point, in Kabbalist traditions it is the center of a pentagram (or, in older terms, pentagon), what we now call a pentagon that is of actual importance. Revealing central truths in an indirect manner represented a crucial aspect of the mystical experience. The star figure merely limns out the internal shape in an unbroken line. Images drawn with a single pen stroke were meant to convey timeless truths. The pentagon was one of the basic polygons.

Much as with Keplers nested polyhedral model of the geocentric solar system, these shapes conveyed then important attributes and properties that are now lost upon most modern scientific minds.

Note how in the above photo, the internal pentagon points downward. That is traditionally the direction of the evil. While encircling the pentagram is supposed to ward off malign forces, the stars point should actually be directed downwards so that the internal pentagon, the real element of significance would have its tip point upwards toward good. While it might seem trivial, this nonetheless demonstrates how Wiccanism plays cafeteria with more ancient and better-grounded traditions (e.g., Kabbalism, numerology, geomancy). It is the sometimes arbitrary and often contrived nature of Wiccanism that fails to impress me. Should Wiccans fight for my country, I shall be proud to shake their hands for it. All I ask is that they not try to portray theirs as one of the ancient religions.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-04-24 17:48|| 2007-04-24 17:48|| Front Page Top

#6 Seafarious ...what do you have against giant puppets?

Posted by DragonFly 2007-04-24 22:29|| 2007-04-24 22:29|| Front Page Top

#7 Granted much of wicca was made up out of whole cloth in the late 19th century. I have a couple of distant acquaintances who are pretty serious about wicca. They are also soft leftists in a California artist kind of way. They are also pretty polite and friendly.

I've never heard of a wiccan flying an airplane into a building or saying that people of other religions must be killed.

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2007-04-24 22:45|| http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2007-04-24 22:45|| Front Page Top

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