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2007-05-17 India-Pakistan

China demands 20 insurgents hiding in Pakistan

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Posted by Fred 2007-05-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [10 views ] Top

#1 You knew it was bound to happen.

Posted by 3dc 2007-05-17 00:19|| 2007-05-17 00:19|| Front Page Top

#2 ChiComs have powerful medicine on the Paks. This sounds like one of those requests you dare not refuse.

Posted by Woozle Elmeter2970 2007-05-17 01:07|| 2007-05-17 01:07|| Front Page Top

#3 If the rumors are correct that the Chicoms could put a 100 million man 'army' in the field during a national calamity, why don't they just put a million of their guys in the area, surround the 20, and shrink the ring. The Chicoms would probable find them in three weeks!!

Posted by smn 2007-05-17 03:11|| 2007-05-17 03:11|| Front Page Top

#4 She added that Pakistan had been cooperating with more than 150 countries, including China, to eliminate terrorism.

Welcome to JIHADI CENTRAL!!!!

Posted by Ebbolump Glomotle9608 2007-05-17 04:59|| 2007-05-17 04:59|| Front Page Top

#5 smn: If the rumors are correct that the Chicoms could put a 100 million man 'army' in the field during a national calamity, why don't they just put a million of their guys in the area, surround the 20, and shrink the ring. The Chicoms would probable find them in three weeks!!

I seriously doubt that. It's a major logistical proposition to put men down in the middle of nowhere. What are they going to eat? Drink?

Posted by Zhang Fei 2007-05-17 05:43|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2007-05-17 05:43|| Front Page Top

#6 EG: Welcome to JIHADI CENTRAL!!!!

This may not mean what you think it does. Nobody worships Musharraf as maximum leader or as a living god. They support him as long as he stands up for their causes and interests. I'm thinking that there are lots of internal movements he can neither penetrate or even knows anything about. That was clear when al Qaeda tried to assassinate him some time back.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2007-05-17 05:47|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2007-05-17 05:47|| Front Page Top

#7 Pakistan is a fake country. Almost as fake as Iran. Their borders are only a product of imperial necessity. Punjabis and Persians are equally despised by ethnic minorities. I would like nothing better than to see a China- Pigistan split.

Posted by Sneaze 2007-05-17 06:16|| 2007-05-17 06:16|| Front Page Top

#8 Zhang, logistical issues differ considerably between armies. Americans require a huge logistical tail. Throughout history though, many/most armies provided their own support from the communities they were in (reason behind the Third Amendment). Sherman took what he needed and destroyed the rest. I am certain Alexander or the Roman Legions did not carry all their provisions with them. China could put a significant fraction of 100 million on the ground in Pakistan - as long as they were not too concerned with side effects or casualties.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-05-17 07:34|| 2007-05-17 07:34|| Front Page Top

#9 The Chicoms have tried it twice. Once in Korea where UN commanders wondered what they were doing. Is this a way to reduce population? After the initial skedaddle, the lines stabilized and UN troops killed a million of them.
The Vietnamese were preparing to use regular forces against them when China invaded some years after we left. According to reports, the Home Guards had defeated the Chicoms and the regulars had little to do.
Do the math. Armies with little logistical backup have to keep moving, after they eat a district to famine. If they're moving through as a matter of conquest,it doesn't matter--see Sherman, as noted above.
But if they settle down, they have to forage and foragers are vulnerable.

Posted by Richard Aubrey">Richard Aubrey 2007-05-17 08:09|| 2007-05-17 08:09|| Front Page Top

#10 Ahhh, all this talk of conquest and pillaging. Think I'll go out and shoot some guns.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2007-05-17 09:38|| 2007-05-17 09:38|| Front Page Top

#11 ...Richard has it right. The PLA is large and powerful - but it is effective only as far as it can walk. On the other hand, because of its sheer size, even its regional components are usually larger by far than whomever it's facing.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2007-05-17 10:28|| 2007-05-17 10:28|| Front Page Top

#12 Technically they are Chinese. Realistically they are just islamic terrorists with the stated purpose of fighting for independence. Not really independence but spreading islam.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-05-17 11:37|| 2007-05-17 11:37|| Front Page Top

#13 John: Technically they are Chinese. Realistically they are just islamic terrorists with the stated purpose of fighting for independence. Not really independence but spreading islam.

Actually, they're Turks (i.e. whites) who, unlike their Central Asian cousins, the Tajiks, Kirghiz, et al, had the bad luck to fall under Chinese rule.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2007-05-17 12:36|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2007-05-17 12:36|| Front Page Top

#14 Ah so. Thanks.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-05-17 14:30|| 2007-05-17 14:30|| Front Page Top

#15 Is anyone really all that surprised to see Pakistan wake up with Chinese fleas?

Pakistan is a fake country. Almost as fake as Iran.

And neither of these ~~fake countries~~ tyrannies have any sovereign rights. That the West continues to pretend they do is a source of endless misery. I doubt that China has many compunctions about leveling some fairly serious threats at Pakistan, albeit most likely through diplomatic channels. We should have been doing the same a very long time ago. Instead, just like Iran, Pakistan has continued to breed up the very worst sort of terrorist scum. Now that the Chinese are beginning to get a share of terrorist noogies, look for them to be far less accomodating about these antics than we ever have been.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-05-17 16:05|| 2007-05-17 16:05|| Front Page Top

#16 Z: Now that the Chinese are beginning to get a share of terrorist noogies, look for them to be far less accomodating about these antics than we ever have been.

I suspect there's not a lot the Pakistani government can do about private individuals harboring foreigners who look just like Pakistanis as the Uighurs of East Turkistan (Xinjiang) do. Pakistan is authoritarian, but they don't have armies of secret police everywhere. I can't get too worked up about Uighurs. There's nobody pressuring the US to release the Uighurs caught during the invasion of Afghanistan, but we've released all of them anyway. This tells me they were just training with al Qaeda rather than their ideological soul mates. I've not heard of any Uighurs returning to fight coalition troops, whereas released Arabs, Chechens and Afghans have been killed in battle. I thought they deserved their own country before 9/11, and I still think so today.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2007-05-17 20:56|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2007-05-17 20:56|| Front Page Top

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