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House Republicans Want Iraq Progress By September

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Posted by McZoid 2007-06-29 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top
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#1 "House Republicans Want Iraq Progress By September"

"And a pony!"

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2007-06-29 00:04|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2007-06-29 00:04|| Front Page Top

#2 Seriously, the numbers don't look good. Members have to satisfy constituents.

Posted by McZoid 2007-06-29 05:10|| 2007-06-29 05:10|| Front Page Top

#3 Sounds like Sen. Lugar would rather lose the war than the next election.

Posted by junkirony 2007-06-29 05:26|| 2007-06-29 05:26|| Front Page Top

#4 What could work in Iraq?

General fumigation.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-06-29 08:14|| 2007-06-29 08:14|| Front Page Top

#5 Sounds like Sen. Lugar would rather lose the war than the next election.

Noooooo! Say it ain't so!

Posted by tu3031 2007-06-29 08:58|| 2007-06-29 08:58|| Front Page Top

#6 The reports seen here at Rantburg are clear that the military believe they are making wonderful progress, and may be near collapsing Al Qaeda in Iraq altogether, as well as the indigenous terror/criminal groups. It will take a good deal of time for the Iraqi Army and Police to be ready to stand up on their own; while the number of volunteers continues to accelerate, their training has to start at a level considerably more basic than needed by American recruits, and their NCO and officer corp are very green, to say the least. Nonetheless, the pace of real world training, so much more useful for driving lessons home than even live fire exercises, is surpassed only by what the Afghani units are getting.

So how well the Iraqis are doing becomes a matter of perspective. Will they quickly match American/Coalition abilities, eg by this September? No. Will they develop into a professional army and a professional police force in time, becoming the best in the Muslim world? Very, very likely, although unlikely to match Israeli Defense Forces and police. Will this teach them never, ever to go up against the US? Very likely, and a useful exercise just for that, as the attitude of the acknowledged best-in-region is going to rub off on the other militaries, not to mention a deep awareness of how unwise it is to go up against American ally Israel (ok, that last may be a bit of wishful thinking), but I'm sure our guys can slip that idea into the training.

At least that's how it looks to this little civilian housewife from the soccer suburbs of the Midwest. Where their are flaws in my reasoning due to my massive ignorance, please gently point them out.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-06-29 09:24|| 2007-06-29 09:24|| Front Page Top

#7 Or there. PIMF!

Posted by trailing wife 2007-06-29 09:24|| 2007-06-29 09:24|| Front Page Top

#8 Translation: Iran and Al Queda need to hold out for 2 more months to win.

Regardless of strategic and tactical mistakes we may have made, we are in a test of wills that is emminently winnable. If the enemy thinks they can wait us out, they can stand anything for a fixed duration of time. However, if they think we are committed they will crumble eventually. Their bass ackward societies are simply incapable of withstanding sustained pressure from a superpower and they have too many internal divisions for us to expoit.

Unfortunately our media, majority of voters and political class is proving as weak willed as they think we are. In this sense, we are unworthy of the troops we have in the field.

We can blame Bush if we want to for being an uninspiring leader or poor Commander in Chief, but he fundamentally understands this is a test of wills and we need to be in it for the long haul. I personally believe our society has proven to be bad 'followers' more than he has been a poor wartime leader.

Posted by JAB 2007-06-29 13:24|| 2007-06-29 13:24|| Front Page Top

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