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2007-07-26 Europe

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Posted by twobyfour 2007-07-26 03:44|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 By the Turks!

Posted by gromgoru 2007-07-26 08:00|| 2007-07-26 08:00|| Front Page Top

#2 Read today what historians will say tomorrow. Well written and spot on.

I kept looking for "the catch" and didn't find one. Especially thought it was coming when he said, "The Iraq War caused the Turks...." but no, just a good historical analysis of what happened.

However, I'm not completely sure I agree with the prediction: "As in the Cold War, we cannot expect every country to become a model democracy. The cultural leap is simply too great. So we may have to accept a Turkey and Pakistan run by military dictators, as Musharraf is doing in Pakistan today. The alternative, an Islamic fascist state with nuclear weapons, is just too awful to contemplate. In Iraq we may have to settle for less than Jeffersonian democracy. And Khomeinist Iran is clearly the next major threat for any president to face in 2009."

While I completely agree with what he has written, I think I detect a whiff of defeatism re: the idea that we should continue our struggle to struggle to promote freedom and democracy round the world. Just because it hasn't been done before does not mean that we should not keep trying. I see no need to settle for the ol' status quo of allowing Sadaams to rape and pillage under our protection; That didn't work either!

We can work with the Pervs and hope that the Turkish military will step in, because we are better off with a Turkey run by a military than we are allowing a democratic process to enact Sharia law. As long as the Turkish military moves civilization forward by allowing the people an increased amount of self-determination and freedom from tyranny... then that forward movement should be our goal. Perv is no George Washington - but he is moving the Paks forward in that his is moving against radical Islam, not sliding the country backwards as the Taliban caused Afghanistan to do. Perv's happy to support freedom against tyranny or the Taliban - as long as he's in charge. Moving forward - not back that's all we should need him to do to get our support.

I tell you there is only one thing that gives me pause about what I'm reading here. And that is that the Turks, who appear to be born to backstab having been outplayed by Chirac and the EU, are now crawling back to us, begging for forgiveness and promising to be good in the future - only so that we will give them something. And then of course as soon as they get it....well need I say more?

Posted by AT 2007-07-26 10:37|| 2007-07-26 10:37|| Front Page Top

#3 Its not local "Democracy with Muslim characteristics" somuch but how anti-Amer Amer Radicalists-Govtists, Globalists, etc. will PC use it to justify or empower anti-US Totalitarianism inside their own country.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-07-26 21:06|| 2007-07-26 21:06|| Front Page Top

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