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2007-09-06 Europe
New Al Qaeda plot to blow up planes on September 11' smashed
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Posted by new linker 2007-09-06 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ]  Top

#1 Lots and lots of details. Click on the title to read the whole thing. Well done, new linker!
Posted by trailing wife 2007-09-06 00:17||   2007-09-06 00:17|| Front Page Top

#2 Thanks - but thank 'Drudge' ..that's where I found it...
Posted by New Linker 2007-09-06 00:28||   2007-09-06 00:28|| Front Page Top

#3 Nice work, New Linker, and ::looks furtively over shoulder to make sure Fred's not watching:: sometimes I'll post a link or three that I find at Drudge. When I'm not exhaustively combing Fark or Instapundit, that is. LOL.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2007-09-06 00:35||   2007-09-06 00:35|| Front Page Top

#4 Don't give away all our secrets, Sea! Next thing I know you'll be telling them how we surf Pravda and KCNA!
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2007-09-06 01:05||   2007-09-06 01:05|| Front Page Top

#5 All right then ... in pieces:

The arrests come a day after Danish police conducted raids and took eight young Muslims into custody whom they suspect of plotting a bomb attack and having links with al Qaeda. No direct link has yet been established between the two plots.

Let's all hope that this was a result of really uninhibited information sharing among the EU's more enlightened members.

Federal prosecutor Monika Harms said the three suspects had bought 700kg (1,500lbs) of hydrogen peroxide to make massive bombs. She said: "We have prevented what we believe would have been the worst terror attacks ever on German soil".

Ironic, that. Truly ironic, it is. How such genocidal intent could coincidentally manifest once again in Germany?

[If you've any doubt, check the link's photo of stockpiled H2O2.]
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-09-06 01:46||   2007-09-06 01:46|| Front Page Top

#6 I've mentioned it here before and others have merely corrected me by saying it's nothing special: Terrorists love to destroy traditions and happy anniversaries let alone create even more ghoulish ones.

IT NEED NOT BE MADE ANY MORE CLEAR HOW AL-QAEDA WILL TRY AND ETCH THE 9-11 ATROCITIES INTO OUR WORLD'S COLLECTIVE MEMORY

This really is all the proof we need to begin summary and extra-judicial execution of Islam's elite, be they clerical, academic or royal.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-09-06 01:47||   2007-09-06 01:47|| Front Page Top

#7 This shit is over with. We—as free people——have the right to prevent those who would inflict such maximally traumatic wounds upon this world's collective psyche. To gouge it into our minds with a gruesome celebration of this already ghastly anniversary is a distinct degree of inhumanity that should denote prosecution with all urgency and haste.

I've had quite enough, as I'm confident the rest of you've had as well. Politicians who refuse to call a spade a spade regarding terrorism really need to be ushered off of Washington DC’s executive and legislative stage. The charade has gone on too long. This farce should already have been over and done by now. As with how there's folks that just plain need killin’, so do Islam's prime movers need to die.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-09-06 01:54||   2007-09-06 01:54|| Front Page Top

#8 Zen... deep breath, exhale. Please keep a lid on the rhetoric.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2007-09-06 01:58||   2007-09-06 01:58|| Front Page Top

#9 We have already lost to Islam untold hundreds of thousands (lately), and truly unknown millions or billions of people over history. What more do we need to know? Political Islam must die. Our very lives are at stake. Theocracy repeatedly has proven itself unfit to rule mankind. What more evidence do we need?
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-09-06 01:59||   2007-09-06 01:59|| Front Page Top

#10 Thank you, Sea. Only a few sentences left.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-09-06 02:00||   2007-09-06 02:00|| Front Page Top

#11 Rumsfeld expressed the same frustration in his "slog" memo (read: prophecy). In WW2, Allied air operations were conducted by Bomber Command, and the expressed target was: "built up areas" within enemy sovereignty or control. So why didn't we give the same treatment to Pashto Afghanistan after 9-11? Because the Baby Boom generation (some of us) grew up with pictures of Nazi atrocites against ethnic minorities; then there was the "civil rights" campaigns in the 'sixties; then Vietnam.
Now, if the enemy is colored, they get hearts-and-minds treatment, and restrained bombing. How many American lives would have been saved in Iraq, if we could have used noxious (less than toxic) to drive enemy troops out of private residences rather than face the risk of break-in? We don't use them because we would be subject to "chemical weapons" accusations.

If you want to see how I would run Iraq operations, see "Rescue Dawn." And I mean the bombing aspect of the movie. We bombed locals out of thousands of square miles of territory, and then napalmed Pathet Lao pockets. Few civilians starved because they went where the food was.

Who complained when Lebanon laid waste to a refugee camp, and slaughtered hundreds of terrorists and collaterals? We cannot win the GWOT until we cheapen the value of enemy life. The value of a jihadi isn't worth a clipped toenail of an American soldier.
Posted by McZoid 2007-09-06 04:43||   2007-09-06 04:43|| Front Page Top

#12 Zenster:

I take back the "clipped toenail" comment. I should have said: the value of a jihadi life isn't worth the grime under a clipped toenail of an American soldier.
Posted by McZoid 2007-09-06 04:46||   2007-09-06 04:46|| Front Page Top

#13 The peroxide wasn't for a bomb. It was to lighten the hair of all the Muslim immigrants so they would fit in better in their host country.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2007-09-06 07:16||   2007-09-06 07:16|| Front Page Top

#14 Interesting comment below the article

I don´t believe a word of it! Schäuble has had a hard time pushing his new laws. It seems quite convenient that a day or two before the next debate in parliament our highly efficient BND should arrest highly dangereous terrorists... A sensible question we should think about: who are really the bad guys?

- Barbara B., Bonn, Germany
Posted by Super Hose 2007-09-06 07:37||   2007-09-06 07:37|| Front Page Top

#15 Some people need to be banged on the head repeatedly until that first bit of reality can be forced through their extra thick skulls, Super Hose.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-09-06 08:23||   2007-09-06 08:23|| Front Page Top

#16 I have been told that in a number of these busts, information from muslims who were either personal or ideological enemies of the plotters played a crucial role.
Posted by mhw">mhw  2007-09-06 08:33|| http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]">[http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]  2007-09-06 08:33|| Front Page Top

#17 I don´t believe a word of it! Schäuble has had a hard time pushing his new laws. It seems quite convenient that a day or two before the next debate in parliament our highly efficient BND should arrest highly dangereous terrorists... A sensible question we should think about: who are really the bad guys? - Barbara B., Bonn, Germany

Good question. The answer: Traitors. Deal with them first. Deal with the horde next.
Posted by Excalibur 2007-09-06 09:20||   2007-09-06 09:20|| Front Page Top

#18 Barbara B. makes a good case for selling her ass to the Arabs.
Posted by ed 2007-09-06 09:49||   2007-09-06 09:49|| Front Page Top

#19 Barbara B REFUSES to believe it because it clashes with her faith in leftism.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2007-09-06 13:13||   2007-09-06 13:13|| Front Page Top

#20 More from Pajamas Media. Hat tip Instapundit.

Authorities had been suspicious of the individuals for a long while. Fritz G., for instance, is a member of an extremist group in Ulm: German authorities already knew about this group before 9/11. Of the three, Fritz G. drew the attention of the authorities the most because he was seen driving around the US military base in Hanau a bit too often. This inspired German authorities to take a closer look at his behavior which ultimately led to today’s arrests.

The Islamic Jihad Union is a Pakistan-based terrorist organization. It operates mostly in Afghanistan. Last year, it committed a major attack in the province of Oruzgan where – among others – Dutch forces serve. Authorities suspect that the three went to Pakistan years ago for training in one of the IJU’s training camps. After they left, the three kept in touch with the leader of the IJU by telephone, which was tapped by the German police.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-09-06 14:00||   2007-09-06 14:00|| Front Page Top

#21 Barbara B[odine] perhaps? ;)
Posted by JSU 2007-09-06 14:08||   2007-09-06 14:08|| Front Page Top

#22 Dear Mr. Fred,

I'm about to send a short, personal note to TW.
(Thank you for the use of your bandwidth.)

To TW:

Over the past,long hoilday weekend I got a little juiced up on a fantastic frozen margarita mix. I think made a comment or two that drew your attention. You - appropriately - chided me for being a tad bit harsh in light of the fact that there could be newbies to this site who - in their early education - might take my comments the wrong way. Fair enough...

So I was sitting at my computer the next day and I'm reading RB. I read out loud your comment directed to me and said out: "damn, was I that harsh...?"

As it so happens my daughter was walking through the room and said to me: "Dad, who are you talking to"?

I had to laugh at the time because..the truth was I was talking to myself. However...

However...I told her..."Honey, I'm talking to my Jewish mother. She just took my ass to task for something I wrote yesterday. She felt I was out of line.".

Daughter: "Dad, what'cha mean you've got a Jewish mother?"

Me: "Baby, I've got a Jewish mother.
She's just..well, you know...virtual. She's out there, somewhere, on the internet."

Daughter: (eyes rolling)..."Okay Dad, whatever. Was she right?"

Me: "Yeah, baby, she was right to get on my ass."

Daughter: "You mean like grandma used to do?"

Me: "Yeah baby, JUST like grandma."


TW: Among other institutions of higher learning, daughter has decided to apply to UC and UM (at Oxford). If accepted (and decides on either) I'll keep you posted. As I recall that puts her in your immediate neck of the woods. I'll arrange a meet. You two will get along famously.
Posted by Mark Z">Mark Z  2007-09-06 14:58||   2007-09-06 14:58|| Front Page Top

#23 The problem is Islam. The problem has always been Islam.
Posted by Crusader 2007-09-06 17:50||   2007-09-06 17:50|| Front Page Top

#24 "Honey, I'm talking to my Jewish mother.

*wipes tear* Mark, I would be delighted to meet a daughter of yours. U of Cincinnati is a solid school with a serious study/internship program (or work-study, I haven't paid proper attention to the nomenclature) credentials, sprawling through a historic Victorian neighborhood in the city, while Miami is viewed as our own Midwestern Ivy League, with all the benefits of Cornell and such but a much more conservative staff and student body, set in charmingly bucolic Oxford. Look for an email... and don't forget to hit Fred's tip jar. ;-)

/As soon as trailing daughter #1 helps me set up the Gmail account Free Radical sent to me, I just know I'll be having all sorts of interesting conversations!
Posted by trailing wife 2007-09-06 19:34||   2007-09-06 19:34|| Front Page Top

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