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2007-09-07 Britain

Nearly half of UK mosques are controlled by Deobandis

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Posted by Seafarious 2007-09-07 10:49|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top
File under: Global Jihad

#1 I'll just note that the first Saudi seminary in England was installed roughly 18 months after the OPEC petrodollars started flowing into Arabia.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2007-09-07 11:31|| 2007-09-07 11:31|| Front Page Top

#2 Saudis part of the problem? How can this be?

Posted by Besoeker 2007-09-07 11:33|| 2007-09-07 11:33|| Front Page Top

#3 Stick a fork in Britian, they're done.

Posted by wxjames 2007-09-07 11:42|| 2007-09-07 11:42|| Front Page Top

#4 Brothers UNITE!

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For a description of the course run by the Albion Conclave see our Distance Learning page.

Posted by Besoeker 2007-09-07 11:53|| 2007-09-07 11:53|| Front Page Top

#5 Personally, this doesn't worry me, as the pros balance the cons. It's better to be dealing with an honest islamic clergy unfettered by savvy political smooh talkers (though the Beeb et al would still find them), and truly moderate and westernised members of the muslim community will be discouraged from practising their religion and mosque attendance outright when hate preachers predominate. The muslim community are to be presented with a stark choice...

Posted by Bulldog 2007-09-07 12:08|| 2007-09-07 12:08|| Front Page Top

#6 Besoeker, that's all well and good as long as you respect Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. No need to respect the ~~faithful muslims~~ Deobandis though because they don't seem like the kind to return the favor.

Posted by Abu Uluque6305 2007-09-07 12:10|| 2007-09-07 12:10|| Front Page Top

#7 Funny, innit, how easily the extremists take over mosques without a fuss? Almost as if those attending don't care, or even prefer extremists.

Naw. Can't be. The majority of Muslims are moderate, right? Clearly they're not responsible for who runs their weekly prayers...

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2007-09-07 12:12|| 2007-09-07 12:12|| Front Page Top

#8 An old employer of mine - mentor, really - told me on more than one occasion: "some people just need killin'."

I think I understand what he meant.

Posted by Mark Z">Mark Z 2007-09-07 12:15|| 2007-09-07 12:15|| Front Page Top

#9 We are in a very dangerous position here. We live amongst the kuffar, we work with them, we associate with them, we mix with them and we begin to pick up their habits.

Working(full stop) and mixing with us infidels is not the norm for Muslims in the UK!!!!

Posted by Paul 2007-09-07 12:15|| 2007-09-07 12:15|| Front Page Top

#10 Behind its closed doors boys and young men aged from 12 to 23 study GCSE subjects alongside advanced Islamic studies.

Check their test results. If their students aren't keeping up with the private religious schools of other sects, shut them down. After all, if they want a bad education they can get it for free at the tax-supported community schools.

Not that I expect the British Dept. of Education to have the gumption to so much as inspect.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-09-07 13:00|| 2007-09-07 13:00|| Front Page Top

#11 Like it matters WHO controls the mosques? The problem is *ISLAM*. The problem has always been Islam.

Posted by Crusader 2007-09-07 13:00|| 2007-09-07 13:00|| Front Page Top

#12 Funny, innit, how easily the extremists take over mosques without a fuss? Almost as if those attending don't care, or even prefer extremists.

End of story, RC.

Hey, folks, Google the news for "muslims condemn new 9-11 plot" or "muslims condemn german plot" and see if you get even a single hit! Confronted with the gruesome prospect of their co-religionists attempting to make the 9-11 atrocities a "tradition", we get NOT ONE PEEP from the global Muslim community. Do they not make things clear enough for us?

It is not suggested that all British Muslims who worship at Deobandi mosques subscribe to the isolationist message preached by Mr ul Haq, and he himself suggests Muslims should only shed blood overseas.

In light of taqiyya, how does ul Haq's "overseas" exception have the slightest significance? Answer: it doesn't. This bastard means "shed blood everywhere" and he means it.

End the farce now. Islam brings no value to this world. Stop pretending that there is anything worth preserving with respect to Islam. Stop imagining that peaceful reform or moderation will ever happen within Islam.

Islam wants to kill us. Its lunges and feints are not pantomime, they are real. Yet, we continue to pretend that the two of us are playing at charades. One may as well play charades with a serial killer.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-09-07 14:24|| 2007-09-07 14:24|| Front Page Top

#13 Perhaps Besoeker is suggesting that British neo-pagans really return to their roots.

Full moon sacrifices imprisoned in wicker baskets over a bonfire ...

Posted by lotp 2007-09-07 14:59|| 2007-09-07 14:59|| Front Page Top

#14 views football as a cancer that has infected our youth.

After watching the Saints last night, he may have a point.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-09-07 15:05|| 2007-09-07 15:05|| Front Page Top

#15 The details of the takeover are scary.

Unless, that is, one never thought of Islam as "A great religion hijacked by a bunch of extremists".

Posted by gromgoru 2007-09-07 15:11|| 2007-09-07 15:11|| Front Page Top

#16 England, we have a problem.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-09-07 15:19|| 2007-09-07 15:19|| Front Page Top

#17 The first Deoband seminary in India used the cover of British indulgence of Muslims in exchange for non opposition to colonialism, to revive the Madrasa movement. Jamaat-i-Islami and other jihadi groups are mere variations of the Deoband cult.

Posted by McZoid 2007-09-07 15:24|| 2007-09-07 15:24|| Front Page Top

#18 Seventeen of Britains 26 Islamic seminaries are run by Deobandis and they produce 80 per cent of home-trained Muslim clerics. Many had their studies funded by local education authority grants.

Posted by rhodesiafever 2007-09-07 18:16|| 2007-09-07 18:16|| Front Page Top

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