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2007-09-12 Caribbean-Latin America

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Posted by Seafarious 2007-09-12 12:05|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Somewhere in Hugo's past, I see a syphlitic prostitute...

Posted by tu3031 2007-09-12 12:55|| 2007-09-12 12:55|| Front Page Top

#2 Two Dutch islands right off the coast of Venezuala. I doubt the Dutch would have the will to retake them. I wonder if this is one more step in Chavez preparing his people for such a move.

Posted by rjschwarz 2007-09-12 13:01|| 2007-09-12 13:01|| Front Page Top

#3 Huh?

I thought it was Argentina. What's Hugo's beef?

(There's a joke there somewhere...)

Posted by mojo">mojo 2007-09-12 13:05|| 2007-09-12 13:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Today we could sink the British fleet.

Poor, helpless, delusional bastard. Sad, very sad.

Posted by Besoeker 2007-09-12 13:13|| 2007-09-12 13:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Three islands actually. Aruba, Bonaire, and Curacao. You can see Venezuela from Aruba.
The Dutch might not have the will to take them back but there's lots and lots of Americans down there all the time. Hugo best not give us an excuse...

Posted by tu3031 2007-09-12 13:15|| 2007-09-12 13:15|| Front Page Top

#6 There are three Dutch islands near the coast of Venezula, Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao, the ABC Islands. Bonaire has world-class scuba diving and little else. If Chavez takes over Bonaire, he really going to piss me off!

Posted by Titus Hayes4699 2007-09-12 13:15|| 2007-09-12 13:15|| Front Page Top

#7 This comes while providing London with discounted oil.

Posted by DoDo 2007-09-12 13:17|| 2007-09-12 13:17|| Front Page Top

#8 Somewhere in Hugo's past, I see a syphlitic prostitute...

His mom?

Posted by SteveS 2007-09-12 13:23|| 2007-09-12 13:23|| Front Page Top

#9 I wouldn't rule that out...

Posted by tu3031 2007-09-12 13:26|| 2007-09-12 13:26|| Front Page Top

#10 Chavez introduced a group of 30 Venezuelan pilots

Today's spanish lesson is will include translations for "suicide" and "clay pigeon"

Posted by flash91 2007-09-12 13:29|| 2007-09-12 13:29|| Front Page Top

#11 It was said that during the Falklands war, Argentina was furiously building glass bottom boats so that they could keep an eye on their air forces.

It will be "deja-vu all over again".

Posted by usmc6743 2007-09-12 13:36|| 2007-09-12 13:36|| Front Page Top

#12 Hugo, does the word "Grenada" mean aything to you?

Posted by mcsegeek1 2007-09-12 13:37|| 2007-09-12 13:37|| Front Page Top

#13 The Argies played a game at a time when alliances were things of diplo double speak. Today, alliances cut both ways. The UK didn't publicly invoke the NATO charter and ask for American help. The Dutch on the other hand could. We're not that over stretched by any imagination to settle the issue quickly and swiftly. And Hugo, you're going to go up against the best trained military in the world, regardless of the distortion of MSM, with what? It ain't going to be pretty. However, never underestimate the drive of a megalomaniac. Saddam played that game too.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-09-12 13:45|| 2007-09-12 13:45|| Front Page Top

#14 Another strutting South American racist peacock. Dime a dozen and leaves a trail of slime where ever he goes.

Posted by ed 2007-09-12 14:16|| 2007-09-12 14:16|| Front Page Top

#15 P2K,

Would the US respond to a NATO call anymore? It hasn't been a two way street for a Loooong time.

Posted by jds 2007-09-12 14:32|| 2007-09-12 14:32|| Front Page Top

#16 For the Dutch and English, yes.

Posted by ed 2007-09-12 14:41|| 2007-09-12 14:41|| Front Page Top

#17 The Argentinian AF actually gave a pretty good account of itself during Falklands War. If their armorers had taken more care with the bomb fuses, the Royal Navy would have taken massive damage. There were numerous accounts of RN surface vessels getting hit with bombs that failed to detonate.

Posted by mrp 2007-09-12 14:45|| 2007-09-12 14:45|| Front Page Top

#18 I think we would for the Dutch. And the Brits. And the Danes. The rest of them, I don't know.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2007-09-12 14:47|| 2007-09-12 14:47|| Front Page Top

#19 I think we would just because he needs smacking around. An appeal from an ally (however non-steadfast) would be a green light to put this pendejo back to his big mouth/little man status

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-09-12 15:09|| 2007-09-12 15:09|| Front Page Top

#20 Strategy Page has been following this issue for some time. Apparently the Dutch have been reinforcing their defences in the Caribbean, so any invasion would be a challenge from the get go.

Al

Posted by Frozen Al 2007-09-12 15:11|| 2007-09-12 15:11|| Front Page Top

#21 Venezuelan Su-30's vs British Marine F-4's and Harriers could get pretty interesting.

Venezuelan Su-30's vs US F-18 Superhornets or F-16's would be interesting for about all of the 30 seconds the Su-30's could be expected to survive in any sort of air engagement - assuming they even managed to get off the ground in the first place of course.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2007-09-12 15:19|| 2007-09-12 15:19|| Front Page Top

#22 Also, Hugo might be thinking of his bright, shiny new Su-30's vs the same British fleet that sailed to the Falkland's in the 1980's. He forgets tht British air defenses will have been brought up to speed and he also forgets that, even though the Argie's managed to sink the Sheffield, immediately afterwards the brits upgraded their air defense tactics and the Argie's never managed to get in on them again as I recall.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2007-09-12 15:22|| 2007-09-12 15:22|| Front Page Top

#23 I would hate to see Aruba taken without a fight.

Posted by eLarson 2007-09-12 15:28|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2007-09-12 15:28|| Front Page Top

#24 You may be giving the british too much credit. Their soldiers and sailors are strong, but there ships are old and their air force depends on the untried eurofighter.

Posted by Heriberto Ulusomble6667 2007-09-12 15:51|| 2007-09-12 15:51|| Front Page Top

#25 I would hate to see Caracas taken without a fight.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-09-12 15:52|| 2007-09-12 15:52|| Front Page Top

#26 Heriberto, RAF may rely on the Euro, but does RN? They'd be operating off of old ships, yes, but their air defenses and air defense doctrine are what would defend the British fleet in any action against them in the event of a renewed Falkland's conflict.

It also occurs to me that the Brits have deployed a new naval air defense missile too though I don;t recall the name of it.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2007-09-12 16:27|| 2007-09-12 16:27|| Front Page Top

#27 Chavez introduced a group of 30 Venezuelan pilots

What's Spanish for "mayday"? Although I'm sure they already know...

Posted by tu3031 2007-09-12 16:30|| 2007-09-12 16:30|| Front Page Top

#28 HRP,
It wasn't the fault of the armorers. The Argentines were dropping US issue Mk82 500lb GP bombs with either M904 nose fuzes or M905 tail fuzes. In either event, the bombs were simply dropped too low to arm.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2007-09-12 17:33|| 2007-09-12 17:33|| Front Page Top

#29 Durign the Falklands the Argies routinely had planes land at different runways than they took off from to keep the number of downed aircrafts from the pilots.

They also never sortied their carrier the Bientecyncodemayo for fear it would be sunk.

And if they'd just timed the weather better they could have ensured the Britts couldn't operate in the South Atlantic for a few weeks allowing them the opportunity to expatrate the Islanders and really undermine British political efforts.

All in all not Argentina's finest hour but they do make a nice steak.

Posted by rjschwarz 2007-09-12 17:42|| 2007-09-12 17:42|| Front Page Top

#30 It wasn't the fault of the armorers. The Argentines were dropping US issue Mk82 500lb GP bombs with either M904 nose fuzes or M905 tail fuzes. In either event, the bombs were simply dropped too low to arm.

Thanks, Mike!

Posted by mrp 2007-09-12 17:48|| 2007-09-12 17:48|| Front Page Top

#31 After they "avenge" the Falklands, what's next?

COLUMBUS, OHIO (AP) -- Venezuelan paratroops landed on the Ohio State University campus at dawn today, and quickly occupied the famous "horseshoe" stadium. In Caracas, Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez, a 1973 graduate of the University of Michigan, said that the assault was "revenge for the infamous tragedy of November 18, 2006. Go Wolverines--you are always number one in my book!" . . .

Posted by Mike 2007-09-12 17:57|| 2007-09-12 17:57|| Front Page Top

#32 Mike, I grew up about 30 miles SE of Columbus - there's a lot of guns in that section of the country.

I doubt the paratroops could hold the campus more than half an hour.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2007-09-12 18:08|| 2007-09-12 18:08|| Front Page Top

#33 Argentinas air force was fairly well trained and professional. If they had better weapons and the British didn't have the new US sidewinder, it would have been a defeat for the British.
Chavez's AF, however, I doubt has any professionalism. It died when communism ~~Chavez~~ took over. The 30 pilots are nothing more than live target drones.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-09-12 18:14|| 2007-09-12 18:14|| Front Page Top

#34 Pompous, strutting, 2-bit blow hard dictator windbag. His 15 minutes is about up.

Posted by JohnQC 2007-09-12 18:22|| 2007-09-12 18:22|| Front Page Top

#35 He declared that British history was stained with the blood of South Americas indigenous people

Shouldn't this ~~vitriol~~ spittle be directed at the Spanish? I seem to recall them playing a much more significant role in colonizing South America.

Legend also has it that one major factor in how poorly Argentina's air force fared was due to their lack of extra drop tanks. Insufficient numbers of them severly hampered the range and duration of their air sorties. During the Falklands conflict Argentina supposedly had procurement officials scouring the United States for old military surplus. It turns out that a huge number of them were bought long ago. Evidently, when properly modified, the drop tanks made excellent kayaks. Mighty Argentina, defeated by a flotilla of kayaks.

Do any of our resident military history experts have the skinny on the Exocet RF codes problem that was responsible for the loss of the Atlantic Conveyor and Sheffield? As I recall, the lovable French sold Argentina Exocets equipped with RF codes that prevented the British from making proper FoF (Friend or Foe) identification of incoming anti-ship missiles. I'd really enjoy getting the low-down on this little gem.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-09-12 19:00|| 2007-09-12 19:00|| Front Page Top

#36 I now recall that, for the British, jamming the Exocets would have meant using overlapping frequencies that could have interfered with their own operations. Supposedly, this was due to the French supplying Argentina with NATO spec missiles, or something like that.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-09-12 19:04|| 2007-09-12 19:04|| Front Page Top

#37 When it's finally time to take on Hugo, I recommend Appalachian State berets for our special forces.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2007-09-12 21:30|| 2007-09-12 21:30|| Front Page Top

#38 WAFF.com/SINODEFENSE.com News > wasn't BRAZIL trying to be South America's new MilPol Nuclear Power He-Bull???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-09-12 21:35|| 2007-09-12 21:35|| Front Page Top

#39 BTW, somebody ask Chavey how come he never wore Red Berets back in Milwaukee???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-09-12 21:36|| 2007-09-12 21:36|| Front Page Top

#40 cuz Wisconsin girlzz kicked his ass

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-09-12 22:22|| 2007-09-12 22:22|| Front Page Top

#41 LOL, Sea (#37)! Snark o' the day material!

I will NEVER forget hearing Lee Corso on ESPN (right after the UM vs. ASU game) saying "They're partying in Boone, N.C. tonight, baby!"

Posted by BA 2007-09-12 22:34|| 2007-09-12 22:34|| Front Page Top

#42 #37 Sea - When it's finally time to take on Hugo, I recommend sending a Texas girl's soccer team or cheerleading squad.

Or is that against the Geneva Conventions ~~that Asshole won't follow anyway~~?

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