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2007-10-03 Home Front: Culture Wars

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Posted by Seafarious 2007-10-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 Alex, who launched surprise attacks on neutral counties without a declaration of war?

FDR invaded the French north African territories of Morocco and Algeria with out any declaration or Congressional authorization while maintaining diplomatic ties with the neutral Vichy France.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-10-03 09:38|| 2007-10-03 09:38|| Front Page Top

#2 P2K - I pointed that out to my historian wife, when you first introduced it to me a few days ago, and she said (in essence), "Do you believe everything you read on the Internet?"

Now I believe you're correct, but my better half is going to need some sort of historical reference beyond an intellectual at Rantburg with a reference to a historical name. (That'd be you.)

You wouldn't happen to have a reference handy, to save me a bunch of Googling? Besides, all that would yield would be more stuff from the Internet!

Posted by Bobby 2007-10-03 13:12|| 2007-10-03 13:12|| Front Page Top

#3 Just wiki for the relationship of the US and Vichy France. The listings of Declarations of War by the US are also online. You don't see France in there. Get your historian a copy of Rick Atkinson's An Army at Dawn and read of the intrigues trying to give the fig leaf of cover to the invasion. Read of the fighting not between Americans and Germans, but between Americans and Frenchmen. It's also a damn good read on the "Greatest Generation's" fumbles and errors when trying to do something no one in the group had ever done before.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-10-03 14:02|| 2007-10-03 14:02|| Front Page Top

#4 An Army at Dawn! Read that Bobby. Huge.

Nother weirdness of the war. Finland DOWed on the US, we declined to partake.

Posted by Thomas Woof 2007-10-03 17:33|| 2007-10-03 17:33|| Front Page Top

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