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2007-10-05 Science & Technology
Why Syria's Air Defenses Failed to Detect Israelis
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Posted by Steve 2007-10-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [7 views ]  Top
 File under: Govt of Syria 

#1 Good lord. This is like the fourth different story I've heard from these bozos about this.
Posted by gorb 2007-10-05 05:25||   2007-10-05 05:25|| Front Page Top

#2 Let me get this straight. Radar systems operate like open wifi systems and all you have to do is broadcast phony data at them.

Probably have the Syrians chasing their tail for a few weeks.
Posted by phil_b 2007-10-05 06:00||   2007-10-05 06:00|| Front Page Top

#3 Why people can't just accept the fact the IAF EW is magic?
Posted by gromgoru 2007-10-05 06:27||   2007-10-05 06:27|| Front Page Top

#4 why can't they just accept the fact that the Russian made radar systems might just be JUNK and they got ripped off.
Posted by sinse 2007-10-05 07:21||   2007-10-05 07:21|| Front Page Top

#5 In 1968 I pushed punch cards for a defence contractor in ECM (Electronic Counter Measures - probably has a spiffier acronym, now)and we were working on a project so secret, we didn't know which aircraft was going to carry it. The engineers said it'd do "everything except cook the pilot's breakfast".

A few years later, when a Nork missle was reported as missing a SR-71 by two miles, I remember thinking the missile thought, "Gotcha" when it exploded.

1968.
Posted by Bobby 2007-10-05 07:40||   2007-10-05 07:40|| Front Page Top

#6 see also Ynetnews: Report: Israel 'blinded' Syrian radar
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-10-05 08:02||   2007-10-05 08:02|| Front Page Top

#7 I am in ur base,
stealin ur nukes!
Posted by Mark E. 2007-10-05 08:42||   2007-10-05 08:42|| Front Page Top

#8 Most likely as well, it was not only this but a meshing of many technologies and tactics. I would prefer "one" for an official answer and let our enemies chase that for the rest of their days.

Oh, and SyriaIranRussiaChina...

Gotcha.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-10-05 09:34||   2007-10-05 09:34|| Front Page Top

#9 Other possibilities:
1) Israel has some F-22 technologies (see above article)(maybe another Jonathan Pollard.)
2) We stole, swapped or otherwise obtained some F-22 technologies from Israel. (I know there have been some pretty smart Jewish physicists over the years.)
3) It was US F-22's, on shakedown flights out of Iraq.
4) We sold Israel our F-117s since we aren't using them anymore.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2007-10-05 09:57||   2007-10-05 09:57|| Front Page Top

#10 The zionists supply gaza with water and electricity, maybe they're supplying root to the Syrians.
Posted by Slaiger the Kid5872 2007-10-05 10:26||   2007-10-05 10:26|| Front Page Top

#11 U.S. aerospace industry and retired military officials indicated today that a technology like the U.S.-developed “Suter” airborne network attack system developed by BAE Systems and integrated into U.S. unmanned aircraft by L-3 Communications was used by the Israelis. The system has been used or at least tested operationally in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last year
Posted by lotp 2007-10-05 10:35||   2007-10-05 10:35|| Front Page Top

#12 It would be easier to (a) hit the sites using commandos (b) than claim you hit it with planes and watch the fun as they try to figure out why they didnt' see nothin.

A couple of combat air probes could help by setting off false alarms in some areas. This would also take pressure off of commandoes, mission complete, heading for the Iraqi border.
Posted by rjschwarz 2007-10-05 12:18||   2007-10-05 12:18|| Front Page Top

#13 Djinn, it was djinn without a doubt. Probably Iblis....
Posted by Captain Flimble8949 2007-10-05 12:29||   2007-10-05 12:29|| Front Page Top

#14 So, I'm wonderin here if we can fake their anti-aircraft units to shoot and launch missles that will come down in Damascus or perhaps Tehran ?
Heh, heh, heh.
Invasion by electronic signal. You don't have to feed it, you don't have to catch it, you don't have to clean it. What's not to like ?
Posted by wxjames 2007-10-05 12:34||   2007-10-05 12:34|| Front Page Top

#15 Slaiger the Kid5872 - your comment easily qualifies as a hit of the month :)))))
Posted by Nesvarbukas 2007-10-05 16:01||   2007-10-05 16:01|| Front Page Top

#16 Our enemies will never think of reading Aviation Week.

According to Cold War legend, the Soviets regarded "Aviation Leak"—as it has long been known in the ECM industry—so highly that a dedicated jet sat on the New York tarmac awaiting its copy of the magazine for immediate transportation back to the USSR.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-10-05 16:53||   2007-10-05 16:53|| Front Page Top

#17 The technology allows users to invade communications networks, see what enemy sensors see and even take over as systems administrator so sensors can be manipulated into positions so that approaching aircraft can’t be seen

Ahhh... No. Sorry.
Posted by mojo">mojo  2007-10-05 16:59||   2007-10-05 16:59|| Front Page Top

#18 "Russian experts are studying why the two state-of-the art Russian-built radar systems in Syria did not detect the Israeli jets entering Syrian territory"

I can help youse guys out with dat: Your Russian stuff SUCKS ROCKS.

You're welcome.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2007-10-05 17:20|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2007-10-05 17:20|| Front Page Top

#19 The technology allows users to invade communications networks, see what enemy sensors see and even take over as systems administrator so sensors can be manipulated into positions so that approaching aircraft can’t be seen

I can't see this being done from a bomber but if someone was dumb enough to connect the enemy sensors to the internet at large, or we had a connection into their blacksite this could probalby be done.
Posted by rjschwarz 2007-10-05 21:16||   2007-10-05 21:16|| Front Page Top

#20 DEBKA > Russian, Syrian, and Iranian experts groups "at sea" .... YOU KNOW THE REST.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-10-05 23:28||   2007-10-05 23:28|| Front Page Top

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