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2007-10-05 Fifth Column

Carter & Elder Statesmen: Dafur not genocide

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Posted by 3dc 2007-10-05 00:01|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top
File under: Govt of Sudan

#1 Nutts!

Posted by Victor Emmanuel Unomoting3635 2007-10-05 00:12|| 2007-10-05 00:12|| Front Page Top

#2 GOD: You are a liar Carter.

May as well stay there.

Posted by newc">newc 2007-10-05 00:48|| 2007-10-05 00:48|| Front Page Top

#3 This guy has been bought lock, stock and barrel. Why doesn't he just say he is no longer an American, but an Earthman (who is actually just a dangerous mischiefmaker).

Posted by Xenophon 2007-10-05 00:50|| 2007-10-05 00:50|| Front Page Top

#4 'Die Swart Gevaar'.... (The Black Danger). It's swart on swart.... how COULD it possibly qualify as genocide. Another classic example of politically correct 'Cartonian think.'

Posted by Besoeker 2007-10-05 05:50|| 2007-10-05 05:50|| Front Page Top

#5 That's our Jimmah.

Posted by gromgoru 2007-10-05 05:58|| 2007-10-05 05:58|| Front Page Top

#6 "It's not a genocide. Just a lot of goon squads running around committing mass murder."

"Oh, what a relief!"

"Yep, nuthin' to worry about."

"Well, good. I can get back to my golf game now."

Posted by Mike 2007-10-05 06:16|| 2007-10-05 06:16|| Front Page Top

#7 next stop? Dieting advice for Zimbobweans~

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-10-05 08:43|| 2007-10-05 08:43|| Front Page Top

#8 "There is a legal definition of genocide and Darfur does not meet that legal standard. The atrocities were horrible but I do not think it qualifies to be called genocide," said former US President Jimmy Carter.

Well, since our little man is trying to pass himself off as an international legal scholar, a little light reading for Mistah Jimmah. He could've done it himself. It took me 30 seconds on a Google search.

The international legal definition of the crime of genocide is found in Articles II and III of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide.

Article II describes two elements of the crime of genocide:

1) the mental element, meaning the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such", and

2) the physical element which includes five acts described in sections a, b, c, d and e. A crime must include both elements to be called "genocide."

Article III described five punishable forms of the crime of genocide: genocide; conspiracy, incitement, attempt and complicity.

Excerpt from the Convention on the Prevention and
Punishment of Genocide

"Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

Article III: The following acts shall be punishable:

(a) Genocide;

(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;

(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;

(d) Attempt to commit genocide;

(e) Complicity in genocide. "

It is a crime to plan or incite genocide, even before killing starts, and to aid or abet genocide: Criminal acts include conspiracy, direct and public incitement, attempts to commit genocide, and complicity in genocide.

Punishable Acts

The following are genocidal acts when committed as part of a policy to destroy a groups existence:

Killing members of the group includes direct killing and actions causing death.

Causing serious bodily or mental harm includes inflicting trauma on members of the group through widespread torture, rape, sexual violence, forced or coerced use of drugs, and mutilation.

Deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to destroy a group includes the deliberate deprivation of resources needed for the groups physical survival, such as clean water, food, clothing, shelter or medical services. Deprivation of the means to sustain life can be imposed through confiscation of harvests, blockade of foodstuffs, detention in camps, forcible relocation or expulsion into deserts.

Prevention of births includes involuntary sterilization, forced abortion, prohibition of marriage, and long-term separation of men and women intended to prevent procreation.

Forcible transfer of children may be imposed by direct force or by fear of violence, duress, detention, psychological oppression or other methods of coercion. The Convention on the Rights of the Child defines children as persons under the age of 18 years.

Genocidal acts need not kill or cause the death of members of a group. Causing serious bodily or mental harm, prevention of births and transfer of children are acts of genocide when committed as part of a policy to destroy a groups existence.

The law protects four groups - national, ethnical, racial or religious groups.

A national group means a set of individuals whose identity is defined by a common country of nationality or national origin.

An ethnical group is a set of individuals whose identity is defined by common cultural traditions, language or heritage.

A racial group means a set of individuals whose identity is defined by physical characteristics.

A religious group is a set of individuals whose identity is defined by common religious creeds, beliefs, doctrines, practices, or rituals.

Key Terms

The crime of genocide has two elements: intent and action. Intentional means purposeful. Intent can be proven directly from statements or orders. But more often, it must be inferred from a systematic pattern of coordinated acts.

Intent is different from motive. Whatever may be the motive for the crime (land expropriation, national security, territorrial integrity, etc.), if the perpetrators commit acts intended to destroy a group, even part of a group, it is genocide.

The phrase "in whole or in part" is important. Perpetrators need not intend to destroy the entire group. Destruction of only part of a group (such as its educated members, or members living in one region) is also genocide. Most authorities require intent to destroy a substantial number of group members mass murder. But an individual criminal may be guilty of genocide even if he kills only one person, so long as he knew he was participating in a larger plan to destroy the group.

http://www.preventgenocide.org/genocide/officialtext.htm

Proving once again the the only thing this guy should be noted for is talking out of his ass and expecting what he says to be accepted as gospel by an adoring media and gullible public.

Posted by tu3031 2007-10-05 09:11|| 2007-10-05 09:11|| Front Page Top

#9 It's not genocide, it's genocide -10. Luckily it stopped in time and I'm certain our good friends the Sudanese will do all they can to prevent those last 10 from being killed and thus tipping the legal scales before the end of the year (when the count starts over).

Posted by rjschwarz 2007-10-05 12:20|| 2007-10-05 12:20|| Front Page Top

#10 By these definitions, neither was the Holocaust until well into the "Final Solution."

Evil-abettors like Jimmuh would have said the same thing about Nazi Germany.

*spit* My eternal loathing and derision on this execrable man.

Posted by xbalanke 2007-10-05 13:12|| 2007-10-05 13:12|| Front Page Top

#11 Minor clarification to my #10: by "these definitions" I mean the ones Jimmuh's pulling out of someplace dark and smelly - not the legal defintions cited by tu3031.

Posted by xbalanke 2007-10-05 13:14|| 2007-10-05 13:14|| Front Page Top

#12 Carter's American citizenship should be revoked. This asshole rapidly is becoming complicit in crimes against humanity. He is worse than a national disgrace. He is an enemy of America and democracy.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-10-05 15:32|| 2007-10-05 15:32|| Front Page Top

#13 He truly is History's Greatest Monster.

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