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2007-10-09 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

'A Palestine without all of east J'lem as capital won't work'

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Posted by Fred 2007-10-09 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top
File under: Palestinian Authority

#1 Kewl, end all Palestinian claims upon Jerusalem so they cannot be more disappointed

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-10-09 00:18|| 2007-10-09 00:18|| Front Page Top

#2 I wonder if the paleo's in Jerusalem really want to be in that "Palestinian State"? That would be just short of ~~suicide~~ stupid on their part. However, stupid does seem to be ingrained in their culture. Has anyone really asked them?

Posted by Throger Thains8048 2007-10-09 00:53|| 2007-10-09 00:53|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm probably just talking through a hole in my foot here, but why not have The Vatican oversee the sites with the Swiss army as their muscle? The paleos get along fairly well with The Vatican, and nobody doubts that the Swiss are neutral.

Or, hell, how about having a nation oversee the sites that could a damn about Islam, Judiasm, or Christianity? Like Japan or Mongolia.

Posted by Secret Master 2007-10-09 01:02|| 2007-10-09 01:02|| Front Page Top

#4 'A Palestine ~~without all of east J'lem as capital~~ won't work'

Fixed

Posted by 3dc 2007-10-09 01:16|| 2007-10-09 01:16|| Front Page Top

#5 For the Paleos this is just another opportunity to miss an opportunity. *yawn*

Posted by Spot">Spot 2007-10-09 07:57|| 2007-10-09 07:57|| Front Page Top

#6 Israel makes the same terrible mistake, over and over, of allowing *any* territorial claims over *any* place in Israel by any foreign power or religion.

As with every other nation, they should claim absolute sovereignty. From that point on, they can be very liberal as to who they allow to *use* such sites; but they are forevermore owned by Israel.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-10-09 08:28|| 2007-10-09 08:28|| Front Page Top

#7 Why don't the Israelis do what the Palestinians always accuse them of? Expel the Palestinians from Jerusalem and resettle it with Jews. Of course, since the Israelis are civilized, they would compensate the paleos for their land instead of trying to kill them on the way out like Arabs do to Jews and Christians.

Posted by RWV 2007-10-09 09:21|| 2007-10-09 09:21|| Front Page Top

#8 A lot of Israelis would love to divest themselves of E. Jerusalem (as long as the Temple Mount stays under Israeli sovereignty).

Posted by mhw">mhw 2007-10-09 10:33|| http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]">[http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/] 2007-10-09 10:33|| Front Page Top

#9 Just take it over, bulldoze the crap buildings and start fresh and tell the paleos to sod off.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-10-09 11:15|| 2007-10-09 11:15|| Front Page Top

#10 A lot of Israelis would love to divest themselves of E. Jerusalem (as long as the Temple Mount stays under Israeli sovereignty).

I don't think the Paleos have control of the Temple Mount. It was my impression Jordan has control of it. They probably use Hamas to run the thing though...

Posted by Charles 2007-10-09 13:40|| 2007-10-09 13:40|| Front Page Top

#11 why not have The Vatican oversee the sites with the Swiss army as their muscle? The paleos get along fairly well with The Vatican, and nobody doubts that the Swiss are neutral.

The Palestinians have as happily desecrated and destroyed Christian holy sites and archaeological sites as well as Jewish ones, Secret Master. Anyway, Fatah has no control over the behaviour of the majority of Palestinians, so whatever respect they might have for the Vatican is moot. As for the Swiss being neutral where Jews are concerned, remember that the Red Cross refuses to recognize Israel's red Star of David -- in use since 1948, I believe -- alongside the cross and the crescent, although they recently voted under U.S. pressure to allow some sort of neutral symbol for those branches neither Christian nor Muslim. Not to mention the long-standing fight of Swiss banks to keep the contents of Nazi-era accounts from Jewish heirs... to the point of mass destruction of records.

Separately, Drudge links to an article that most Israelis will not accept the division of Jerusalem, nor turning over supervision of holy sites. link

Posted by trailing wife 2007-10-09 13:57|| 2007-10-09 13:57|| Front Page Top

#12 As for the Swiss being neutral where Jews are concerned, remember that the Red Cross refuses to recognize Israel's red Star of David -- in use since 1948, I believe -- alongside the cross and the crescent, although they recently voted under U.S. pressure to allow some sort of neutral symbol for those branches neither Christian nor Muslim. Not to mention the long-standing fight of Swiss banks to keep the contents of Nazi-era accounts from Jewish heirs... to the point of mass destruction of records.

Good on you, trailing wife. NEVER EVER let the Swiss off the hook for collaborating with the Nazis and the banks' subsequent attempts at covering their tracks regarding theft of Holocaust assets. It is difficult to imagine a more ghoulish bunch of bloodless greed-driven shits than the Swiss. NEVER FORGET!

Separately, Drudge links to an article that most Israelis will not accept the division of Jerusalem, nor turning over supervision of holy sites.

Thank you, too, for that ray of hope and sanity as well.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-10-09 14:23|| 2007-10-09 14:23|| Front Page Top

#13 A solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict necessarily requires the establishment of a Palestinian State with its capital in all of east Jerusalem and any accord short of that will not work...

Good! I guess that does away with any (foolish) notion of a Palestinian State!

Posted by Crusader 2007-10-09 15:58|| 2007-10-09 15:58|| Front Page Top

#14 Thank you, too, for that ray of hope and sanity as well.

My pleasure, Zenster dear. We all need such rays just now to keep our sense of proportion, as things appear to be getting intense again. I was particularly happy to run across that article after reading mhw's post #8 above.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-10-09 19:16|| 2007-10-09 19:16|| Front Page Top

#15 Zenster... remeber, I'm here for you, and I've chucked my last pack of Ricola's and a half jar of Ovaltine into the rubbish bin. There, I HOPE you are satisfied!

Posted by Besoeker 2007-10-09 19:24|| 2007-10-09 19:24|| Front Page Top

#16 Being back is making you dangerously whimsical, Besoeker. Perhaps a slice of melk taart will help... ;-)

Posted by trailing wife 2007-10-09 19:35|| 2007-10-09 19:35|| Front Page Top

#17 remeber, I'm here for you, and I've chucked my last pack of Ricola's and a half jar of Ovaltine into the rubbish bin. There, I HOPE you are satisfied!

Dude, I'm just glad you're back in one piece. Hope you're getting all settled in.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-10-09 19:43|| 2007-10-09 19:43|| Front Page Top

#18 Good on you, trailing wife. NEVER EVER let the Swiss off the hook for collaborating with the Nazis and the banks' subsequent attempts at covering their tracks regarding theft of Holocaust assets. It is difficult to imagine a more ghoulish bunch of bloodless greed-driven shits than the Swiss. NEVER FORGET!

Actually, what the Vatican has is the Swiss Guard. It's a 501 year old unit, originally mercenary. However, one of the requirements is that the applicant be Swiss.

Posted by Pappy 2007-10-09 21:47|| 2007-10-09 21:47|| Front Page Top

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