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2008-03-30 Great White North

Toronto Chinese rally turns ugly against Tibetans

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Posted by lotp 2008-03-30 14:41|| || Front Page|| [8 views ] Top

#1 "China and Chinese people have helped Tibetan people to improve human rights," said one organizer who spoke in English. "How can somebody who cannot even read or write understand anything about human rights? If they cannot read or write, how can they understand what they have lost in the past in Tibet? People were just blind faith to believe in their religion. They were controlled."

Boy, those Tibetans are really ungrateful. When I think of human rights, I immediately think of the Chinese....yup

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-03-30 14:54|| 2008-03-30 14:54|| Front Page Top

#2 Tibet was a vassal state to the Mongol and Manchu empires, both of whom also invaded and ruled China.

For China to claim that Tibet is Chinese because of that link is absurd. By that logic, the US could claim India and Australia, since all three were ruled by the British at the same time.

Posted by john frum 2008-03-30 15:03|| 2008-03-30 15:03|| Front Page Top

#3 "Leave Canada!" others urged.

Didn't realize that Canada was part of the Chinese motherland?
Did some emissary of the Chinese emperor evacuate his bowels there a few centuries ago?

Posted by john frum 2008-03-30 15:06|| 2008-03-30 15:06|| Front Page Top

#4 I'm sure the Chinese taught all they know about human rights to the more than 1 million Tibetans they have murdered since 1950.

BTW, talk to any mainland Chinese immigrant about Tibet. They turn into rabid little fuckers in an instant.

Posted by ed 2008-03-30 15:09|| 2008-03-30 15:09|| Front Page Top

#5 By that logic, the US could claim India and Australia, since all three were ruled by the British at the same time.

Johnson! Fetch my Flag! Games on!

Posted by Zebulon Angavick7428">Zebulon Angavick7428 2008-03-30 16:06|| 2008-03-30 16:06|| Front Page Top

#6 Come on guys, keep your eyes open. The Tibetan priest caste kept ~~slaves~~ serfs on plantations and in general, behaved like Jerry Falwell. It was no mountain paradise. And by saying this, I'm not defending the 19th century nationalism that Chinese people keep.

Posted by gromky 2008-03-30 17:35|| 2008-03-30 17:35|| Front Page Top

#7 thanks gromky, ever heard the term: "going native"?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-03-30 18:17|| 2008-03-30 18:17|| Front Page Top

#8 Damn Gromky... better watch The Sand Pebbles again! >:)

Posted by RD">RD 2008-03-30 18:26|| 2008-03-30 18:26|| Front Page Top

#9 Well, the issue has been muddied severely and it's hard to wade through the Chinese propaganda. But from what I've read gromky's right: under the Tibetan priests most of the population were serfs and conditions were pretty bad.

Posted by lotp 2008-03-30 18:47|| 2008-03-30 18:47|| Front Page Top

#10 I was rash and wrong. Gromky's been a long-term reliable (to my knowledge) poster, and I shouldn't have disparaged him without hard info. My apologies, Gromky. I disagree with your take but am willing to listen. Explain?

Frank

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-03-30 18:55|| 2008-03-30 18:55|| Front Page Top

#11 FG: I was rash and wrong. Gromky's been a long-term reliable (to my knowledge) poster, and I shouldn't have disparaged him without hard info. My apologies, Gromky. I disagree with your take but am willing to listen. Explain?

He's basically recycling Chinese propaganda regurgitated by Western Maoists. Here's an article from a leftist who's not a Maoist reassessing the ethnocentric and Communist propaganda of the Han supremacists who populate and rule the Chinese empire.

Posted by Zhang Fei">Zhang Fei 2008-03-30 19:28|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2008-03-30 19:28|| Front Page Top

#12 ZF - understood. I still disagree with Gromky. I'm just willing to listen. I think the western media's been in the tank for China, like all leftists.

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-03-30 19:51|| 2008-03-30 19:51|| Front Page Top