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2008-06-04 Olde Tyme Religion

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Posted by Fred 2008-06-04 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top
File under: Global Jihad

#1 Don't know if I agree... "strip away the oil accident", ok, but in the meantime, the oil accident IS here, and so are the demographic trends, even if birthrates are falling down to replacement level or below like in iran or tunisia, the momentum is still here for a couple decades or more...

So, I really think the writer underscopes the subversive power of said oil money, and the massive impact of mass migrations into western Europe coupled with general white demographic winter and "cultural pessimism"/civilizational AIDS.

It's not so much that muslims are powerful (they are not) and we are weak, it's rather that we are weak, and they are here to fill the void/pick up the pieces.

Posted by anonymous5089 2008-06-04 03:30|| 2008-06-04 03:30|| Front Page Top

#2 Idiot. Their strength is not oil---their strengths are.

(i) Persistence---they've never given up on Jihad since Mohammed's time (e.g. when Europe became too strong, they've switched to Africa).
(ii) Their ability to exploit their opponents' weaknesses (Nowadays they manipulate "the West" through masterful combination of greed, fear, "anti-racism" & anti-semitism).

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-06-04 04:54|| 2008-06-04 04:54|| Front Page Top

#3 "beleaguered moderates" my ass.

Posted by Spot">Spot 2008-06-04 08:43|| 2008-06-04 08:43|| Front Page Top

#4 The oil is no accident. We gave them the oil. We continue to allow them to have it.

They use the money to buy our luxury goods, bribe our most prestigious universities, and arm our most ardent enemies. We pay for their culture of hatred and rape.

Posted by Excalibur 2008-06-04 10:42|| 2008-06-04 10:42|| Front Page Top

#5 Gee, g(r)om/Mike, I hope the idiot is the writer and not me.

Also, I really think you're giving them (the muslims as a "civilization", lovelock-style entity) way too much credit; this really is an opportunity moment for them, based on perceived and real weaknesses from the oppoent(s), IMHO. Furthermore, if you restrict "muslims" to "arabs", then, it's even worse, they've basically been perpetual losers since their initial drive stalled, and the current "3rd jihad" is nothing like a bold aggressive campaign by savvy warriors... like I said IMHO it's

1) ploutocrats & kleptocrats sitting on top of a mineral wealth they neither found nor developed, buyt stole from thoses who did (the West, thanks to the marxist-driven "people liberation" historical episode) who funds a worldwide campaign of subversion.
Really, who could care about soody arabia, even if it were still the keeper of mecca, if it was just a country of inbred goatherders and desert raiders... WITHOUT the oil and the oil money/power???

2)Demography, with over the course of the 20th century an explosion of the arab/muslim pop (made possible NOT by any kind of muslim prowess, BUT by western advances - french colonizers in algeria were very worried the natives would eventually go extinct, as the area was so backward and mortality so high it was basically depopulated).
The main problem of Western Europe is that it is now a "bloody border" of islam, "thanks" to its own policies (with apparently a big hand from the soviets), and that it is driven by nihilism, apparent in its cultural pessimism that the cultural marxist worked so hard to inculcate, and its demographic winter.

You're an israeli, you've got an israeli muslim problem, which is not the same as the Us muslim problem, which is not the same as the western Europe muslim problem.

All three stem from the same source, you're right in saying this is what islam is at its core, an aggressive, arab supremacist imperialism which is a formidable eraser of identities and civilizations, BUT it is active only against foes it think it can easily conquer.

Were we the 19th century Europe, and were they without oil and warm bodies, nothing like this mess would be even thinkable.
They're losers and carrion, we're bigger losers and decaying bodies.

Posted by anonymous5089 2008-06-04 10:54|| 2008-06-04 10:54|| Front Page Top

#6 This struck me as being written by a left wing liberal the got hit by the clue bat buts can't quite shake himself out of denial mode.

His moral relativism such as complaining about a few Christians objecting to Darwin; his pooh poohing of Conservative fears as "premature" while agreeing that their is a there there lead me to believe that he, down deep, knows that he is whistleing past the grave yard of his own fears.

Posted by AlanC 2008-06-04 11:49|| 2008-06-04 11:49|| Front Page Top

#7 It's a BFMI operation, guys. Brute Force and Massive Ignorance.

Posted by mojo">mojo 2008-06-04 12:20|| 2008-06-04 12:20|| Front Page Top

#8 I might add that for western Europe, islam is just an opportunistic illness, so to speak, a symptom of a larger civilizational malaise of which one blatant illustration is the mass pouring of non-european populations into european population an unprecedented historical occurrence, leading to "frictions" of which islamic supremacism is but an example, with islamic terrorism being an even more marginal (what is the strategic threat of bus bombings, bar them being part of a global, total irregular warfare like the paleos do against Israel? And now, what is the strategic threat of millions of pakistanis immigrating to the UK?).

This is not islam-related, yet, it is part of that larger picture. Still in the UK, "grooming" (the deliberate targeting of young teenage or preteen english girls by gangs of young pakistanis or single middle-age pakistani, to be turned into whores and f*cktoys) IS islam-related, but it is still a result not of "islam", but of the massive influx of non-european populations in the UK.

Posted by anonymous5089 2008-06-04 12:22|| 2008-06-04 12:22|| Front Page Top

#9 Though, that could be said to be true as well for the USA, possibly in a less severe scale (that could be argued). Not just Europe, or the "decadent EU-peons".

Posted by anonymous5089 2008-06-04 12:27|| 2008-06-04 12:27|| Front Page Top

#10 What would the world be like if the Anglo-Americans carved out a homeland for the Jews in the oil rich area at the top of the Gulf (Kuwait and Northern Saudi Arabia).

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-06-04 13:09|| 2008-06-04 13:09|| Front Page Top

#11 A5089,
(i) The author.
(ii) For perennial losers they did awfully well---a lot better than say Romans, or post-Renaissance Europeans.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-06-04 15:56|| 2008-06-04 15:56|| Front Page Top

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