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2008-06-25 Home Front: WoT

At Odds With Air Force, Army Adds Its Own Aviation Unit

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Posted by Barak 2008-06-25 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 C-12 and a lot of the fixed wing Army aviation stuff is ELINT/SIGINT birds (liek the Guardrail mission equiment).

I guess a lot of people don't realize that the Army has had its own aviation for a while - and the UAVs are just the latest addition.

USAF inability to be responsive to tactical needs is why the Army attack helicopter was born. It is a hell of a quicker response when you call on air support from 4th squadron of the same regiment instead of some zoom that may or may not show and if he does, he flies too high to hit things accurately as often as integral (rotary) assets can.

The major exceptions to this are the A-10's: those guys run with the ground forces and work hand-in-glove with the ground and heli units, always have been down in the weeds. They know how talk and work the Army way on ground targets, and are hella responsive compared to fast movers.

Simple as that - the USAF is too busy with its other missions - air superiority, strategic strikes, strategic/theater level recon, and air transport.

The Army falls lower on the USAF priority list - the USAF wants to do its own recon first, and will not task assets to Army requests until it believes it has filled what it needs.

Unfortunately this means the Army gets starved out - because what the Army needs is not what thte USAF thinks the Army needs.

So I cannot blame the Intel unit for putting that together. We put together Tactical Exploitation units way back when, when the TO&E of standard MI/CAV had nothing for our unique needs. So we hammered them together out of LRRP, Interrogation, EW/SIGINT, GSRs, Tac Jammers and some mobility assets.

This is more of the same.

A good addiiton to the Army Aviaiton stable.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-06-25 01:51|| 2008-06-25 01:51|| Front Page Top

#2 And the Army has more hulls than the Navy. The difference is the Navy is helping the Army increase its lead.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-06-25 07:06|| 2008-06-25 07:06|| Front Page Top

#3 And what a lot of taxpayers don't understand that craft like the Apache are responses to not having an A-10 in the inventory and those that the AF controlled constantly on the chopping block. So we end up with funding both for their dysfunctional institutional behaviors.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-06-25 08:25|| 2008-06-25 08:25|| Front Page Top

#4 Nobody stops the Army Air Corps!

Posted by Mike 2008-06-25 12:20|| 2008-06-25 12:20|| Front Page Top

#5 The greatest issue is the LT, POST-WOT, OWG-NWO missions-scopes of the various US Armed/
Uniformed Services. DITTO FOR BOTH US ALLIES + FOES + NEUTRALS/MODERATES.

US + RADICAL ISLAM > WOT = WAR FOR POST/ANTI-COLD WAR "STATUS QUO" + OWG-NWO, hence NO SIDE GENER DESIRES ANY FORM OF MUTUAL "STALEMATE" REGARDLESS OF PC DIPLOM RHETORIC TO THE CONTRARY.

No US-Allied Pol wants to be blamed for NUCLEAR TERRORISM, as symbolized in a NUCLEAR IRAN + "SUITCASE/MINI-NUKES"; while Islam = Radical Islam desires to modernize + expand, and prelude any USSR-style event of self-obsolescence and implosion [dynamic self-extinction].

DARE COLD WAR "REVOLT OF THE GENERALS/ADMIRALS" now devol 2008-2012 into "REVOLT OF THE POLITICIANS/NEW ORDER", ala PRO-WAR "ANTI-STATUS QUO/NEW ORDER"???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-06-25 19:07|| 2008-06-25 19:07|| Front Page Top

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