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2008-12-10 Europe

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Posted by mrp 2008-12-10 09:12|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 a) the JSF is better

b) Norway's keeping its NATO link

Sweden wants it both ways: to stay neutral but to have others help it with its industrial and defense costs. Isn't working well.

Posted by lotp 2008-12-10 10:12|| 2008-12-10 10:12|| Front Page Top

#2 In concluding, Saab said it respects Norway's decision,

Non-sequitur of the year.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-12-10 10:23|| 2008-12-10 10:23|| Front Page Top

#3 Damn Norse untermenschen, won't pay danegeld to their rightful lords and masters to the east. What's the world coming to these days?

Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H. 2008-12-10 11:31|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2008-12-10 11:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Gripen flight demonstrations, these two are going to require a lot of maintenance time.

Longer look from a different angle

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-12-10 13:33|| 2008-12-10 13:33|| Front Page Top

#5 There is no mention of what the problems are with the Gripen but I notice both the aircraft were in fairly normal flight operations (approach to final, high g flight maneuvers for air demo) that should not be considered outside the normal flight envelope. Flight control problems?

Have these problems been ironed out or are they ongoing for the aircraft?

Posted by tipover 2008-12-10 14:11|| 2008-12-10 14:11|| Front Page Top

#6 Problems have been ironed out. I wouldn't mind owning one myself, except for the cost of fuel.

What do the letters SAAB stand for? Ask the man who owns one . . or two . .

Something Almost Always Broken.

Posted by Canuckistan sniper 2008-12-10 14:33|| 2008-12-10 14:33|| Front Page Top

#7 Those two crashes are old old old.
They are from the test series 1989 and 1993. They have been ironed out long long long ago. If you looked at those videos you have seen 50% av all Gripen crashes.

Posted by Yk 2008-12-10 15:46|| 2008-12-10 15:46|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm fairly sure both of these crashes were from early in the test program; I seem to remember it was because of the flight control software. (One of them looks like it was some sort of PIO, same as wrecked one of the YF-22 prototypes).

I like the Gripen, but always find myself wishing they'd had made it Viggen-sized; it would probably cost the same, since the electronics systems seem to dominate the airframe costs these days.

Also, the Swedes were trying to sell a modified version of the Gripen, with more fuel and weapons capacity. A larger airframe to begin with would have made those sort of things easier.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2008-12-10 15:50|| 2008-12-10 15:50|| Front Page Top

#9 So then Norway decided to quit their Gripen.

Posted by swksvolFF 2008-12-10 15:51|| 2008-12-10 15:51|| Front Page Top

#10 The Flight controls were probably running windows for warplanes and it BSOD.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2008-12-10 15:55|| 2008-12-10 15:55|| Front Page Top

#11 And yeah, I'd like to have a gripen of my own... but my credit cards are maxed out, and I have trouble fitting in the cockpits of many human fighter planes. They make 'em for little guys 5-6 feet tall.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2008-12-10 16:06|| 2008-12-10 16:06|| Front Page Top

#12 So SAAB respects Norway's decision but still feel they have to grippe about it?

Posted by Spike Uniter 2008-12-10 17:47|| 2008-12-10 17:47|| Front Page Top

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