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2009-01-12 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Obese Americans now outweigh the merely overweight
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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2009-01-12 01:25|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 So, you think the states that removed sales tax off of food [you know, so granny didn't have to eat cat food], will now reimpose it as a fat weight management tax?
Posted by Procopius2k 2009-01-12 08:26||   2009-01-12 08:26|| Front Page Top

#2 Childhood and adult obesity has emerged as a growing problem not only in the United States but also in many countries around the world.

Damn, just when we seem to be on the edge of victory over thousands of years of human experience with famine and malnutrition. I think Zim Bob may be on the leading edge to address the obesity "crisis".
Posted by Procopius2k 2009-01-12 08:29||   2009-01-12 08:29|| Front Page Top

#3 The BMI is crap, just like the old height weight charts. Probably worse since it doesn't take any account of body type.

You want to fix the problem? Just change the number. This will be used by the nanny staters and power mad as another excuse to control us.

See gerbil worming and light bulbs.
Posted by AlanC 2009-01-12 09:49||   2009-01-12 09:49|| Front Page Top

#4 Exactly. Wichita KS was fine for air quality until the EPA dropped the acceptable limit now they face millions in fines.

According to the standards this survey would include nearly every High School, College, Pro, and recreational athlete. 4,356 adults over twenty hardly comprehensive. Arn't they suggesting an increase in tax for fast food joints in CA?
Posted by swksvolFF 2009-01-12 12:58||   2009-01-12 12:58|| Front Page Top

#5 My sister in law is pretty fat.

But, she managed to go from overweight to obese while losing 15 lbs. Seems they changed the chart. Seems they could change it back just as easy.
Posted by AlanC 2009-01-12 14:37||   2009-01-12 14:37|| Front Page Top

#6 
My doctor has never warned me about my weight beyond saying I could afford to lose 15lbs. Never told me my BMI or told me to look at it.

Just went to a BMI calculator.

I'm 6'3" tall and weigh 238 with a 37" waistline. According to BMI I am overwieght / borderline obese (29.7).

When I met my wife 35 years ago I was a very scrawny 170lbs. She always complained that she could count my ribs...in the back! According to BMI 170 lbs is exactly in the middle of the normal range.

This is obscene.

I think it may be getting to the point where some sort of revolutionary movement may be needed in this country to save us from the insanity.
Posted by AlanC 2009-01-12 14:47||   2009-01-12 14:47|| Front Page Top

#7 Don't forget, according to the BMI, Arnold Schwartzenegger was obese in his Mr. Universe days.
Posted by CrazyFool 2009-01-12 14:54||   2009-01-12 14:54|| Front Page Top

#8 Before the government screwed with the charts in the 90s, the height and weight data was accumulated by the insurance industry for calculating their life insurance tables. They gathered data from a vast number of people over decades [vice the 5000 the government used as a sample]. Since the insurance industry was literally beating their money on the process, I would say the older tables had a quality assurance aspect that the government agency did not.
Posted by Procopius2k 2009-01-12 15:45||   2009-01-12 15:45|| Front Page Top

#9 When I got married in 1966, I was 5'10 1/2" tall and weighed 205 pounds, with a 32" waist. I was considered in my "ideal" weight range. Today, 42 years later, I'm 5'8 3/4" tall (degenerative disk disease, bad knees, hips, etc.), have a 37" waist, and weigh 210. Now I'm considered "obese". I still can't float in a swimming pool.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2009-01-12 18:05|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2009-01-12 18:05|| Front Page Top

#10 Hey OP, I hear ya.

I SAID I'm 6'3' cause that's what I was and your bones don't shrink so the weight chart should still work. I'm really down to 6'1". Add up the decrease in the thickness of the disks shown by my last MRI and you can find the 2", 1/4" at a time.
Posted by AlanC 2009-01-12 18:13||   2009-01-12 18:13|| Front Page Top

#11 BMI is a bullshit indicator.

Google the USMC's ht/wt standards - if you want to see a realist ht/wt range for your body type.

I think they're pretty reasonable - e.g. - I'm 5'7" and weigh abt 160 - by the Corps' standards I'm 16 lbs under my wt max for my ht - by BMI standards I'm just abt a lb from being "overweight." Mind you, I can do abt 18-20 dead hang pullups, run 3 miles in around 20-21 mins and still do 100 crunches in under 2 min's. BMI is total horse shit. I don't have a true 6 pack at the moment but I definitely don't have a "dunlap". The BMI doesn't take into account bone structure or muscle mass.
Posted by Flease and Tenille aka Broadhead6 2009-01-12 21:44||   2009-01-12 21:44|| Front Page Top

#12 What really matters of the body mass to fat ratio.

Unfortunately under any measurements -- I have a "Dunlap" :(
Posted by CrazyFool 2009-01-12 22:18||   2009-01-12 22:18|| Front Page Top

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