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2009-10-28 International-UN-NGOs

UN investigator warns US on use of drones

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Posted by tipper 2009-10-28 08:12|| || Front Page|| [1 views ] Top

#1 I'm surprised this hasn't happened earlier. The drones are an assassination program.

Posted by phil_b 2009-10-28 08:55|| 2009-10-28 08:55|| Front Page Top

#2
Personally, if I were a terrorist suspect, Id rather be picked up by a Special Forces team in the Hindu Kush, be shipped to Cuba, have my case reviewed by military lawyers, be allowed a Middle Eastern diet, and be provided with a Koran and arrows pointing to Mecca than simply wait to have my head exploded without warning by a Hellfire missile, while sitting inside my mud-brick hideout in Waziristan alongside my soon-to-be-incinerated family.

Victor Davis Hanson

Posted by Parabellum 2009-10-28 09:51|| http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/]">[http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/] 2009-10-28 09:51|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm having trouble seeing the difference between sending a Hellfire thru the window via a drone vs dropping a 250 lb bomb on the roof with a plane.

I am also having trouble seeing the usefulness of the UN, but that is rant for another thread.

Posted by SteveS 2009-10-28 10:21|| 2009-10-28 10:21|| Front Page Top

#4 This is what we get for trying to limit bloodshed instead of doing arclight strikes.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2009-10-28 10:33|| 2009-10-28 10:33|| Front Page Top

#5 VDH is smarter than your average bear :)

Posted by Woozle Uneter9007 2009-10-28 11:01|| 2009-10-28 11:01|| Front Page Top

#6 Again with the "International Law" crap. Yo, Einstein - it doesn't exist! Certainly the thugs and thieves that make up the UN have no laws.

Posted by mojo 2009-10-28 11:08|| 2009-10-28 11:08|| Front Page Top

#7 SteveS, if it is an MQ-9 Reaper instead of an MQ-1B Predator on the combat air patrol, you don't have to choose. You can be killed by an AGM-114 Hellfire missile, a GBU-12 laser guided bomb, or a GBU-38 JDAM. The Reaper can carry 3,000 pounds of ordinance on the wings and deliver it with precision, panache, and pleasure.

Posted by rwv 2009-10-28 11:29|| 2009-10-28 11:29|| Front Page Top

#8 To the the Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial Executions:

What about that?

Gunmen attacked a guest house used by U.N. staff in the Afghan capital of Kabul early Wednesday, killing at least seven people including three U.N. staff, officials said. A Taliban spokesman claimed responsibility, saying it was meant as an assault on the upcoming presidential election.

Posted by Willy 2009-10-28 11:47|| 2009-10-28 11:47|| Front Page Top

#9 Maybe the UN wants the USA to revert to that

Posted by Willy 2009-10-28 12:05|| 2009-10-28 12:05|| Front Page Top

#10 Its interesting the UN waited this long to bring this up. They had years to address it under Bush - but they knew he'd tell them to go pound sand. The UN sees Obama's weakness and will try to capitalize on it even more.

Posted by Yosemtie Sam 2009-10-28 12:36|| 2009-10-28 12:36|| Front Page Top

#11 Perhaps the UN wants us to revert to this:

(Dresden)

Posted by OldSpook 2009-10-28 12:41|| 2009-10-28 12:41|| Front Page Top

#12 Perhaps the UN wants us to revert to this:

Works for me...

Posted by M. Murcek 2009-10-28 12:47|| 2009-10-28 12:47|| Front Page Top

#13 My vote is arclight strikes using nukes. Bring back the mininukes and drop however many a B-52 can hold in a nice pattern over an area. Then repeat when the UN inspectors go in to investigate.

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2009-10-28 13:28|| 2009-10-28 13:28|| Front Page Top

#14 Attention mods: How many drinks does Silentbrick's post call for? Dr. Steve: How much is a liver transplant, just in case?

Posted by Grunter 2009-10-28 14:56|| 2009-10-28 14:56|| Front Page Top

#15 Maybe we could launch arc lights from Q-ships off the coast, and stealth in with mini nukes?

Posted by OldSpook 2009-10-28 15:25|| 2009-10-28 15:25|| Front Page Top

#16 Why yes! Yes, I *am* trying to destroy your liver. It is kind of you to notice.

Posted by OldSpook 2009-10-28 15:26|| 2009-10-28 15:26|| Front Page Top

#17 Can we start with the Turtle Bay first?

Posted by CrazyFool 2009-10-28 15:43|| 2009-10-28 15:43|| Front Page Top

#18 The primary objection of the UN seems to be that it's effective. Their thought process seems to be "Let's get those US troops out there where they can get killed. Maybe they'll get sick of it before they get around to us"

Posted by Mercutio 2009-10-28 15:49|| 2009-10-28 15:49|| Front Page Top

#19 The Goldstone thing really went to their heads.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2009-10-28 16:12|| 2009-10-28 16:12|| Front Page Top

#20 Since they accuse of all these horrible things, we might as well do them and get the job done. It'll be over far more quickly and it'd be a permanent solution to the problem.

From the game of Paranoia, comes the right saying for this problem.

"Vapors don't shoot back"

Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick 2009-10-28 17:34|| 2009-10-28 17:34|| Front Page Top

#21 "killing at least seven people including three U.N. staff, officials said. A Taliban spokesman claimed responsibility"

In other words, red on red.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-10-28 18:18|| 2009-10-28 18:18|| Front Page Top

#22 Receiving warnings from the UN are we? This is the first positive news we've seen lately! Our UAS programe must surely be effective.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-10-28 18:21|| 2009-10-28 18:21|| Front Page Top

#23 ION PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > US RETREATS AS TALIBAN TAKE OVER AFGHAN PROVINCE [Nuristan].

POSTER > USA = US-ALLIES cannot win the war from the air [drones], as it is mainly a FOOT-SOLDIERS' WAR.

Posted by JosephMendiola">JosephMendiola 2009-10-28 20:38|| na]">[na] 2009-10-28 20:38|| Front Page Top

#24 This moderator thinks silentbrick's suggestion is an excellent idea.

Posted by Scooter McGruder 2009-10-28 22:06|| 2009-10-28 22:06|| Front Page Top

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