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2009-12-26 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
NYT Op-Ed: There's Only One Way to Stop Iran
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Posted by tipper 2009-12-26 00:00|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top

#1 Anybody know if the Iranians have buried power plants to run their buried centrifuges? If not, destroy the power plants. If so, they have to get rid of the waste heat somewhere, which should be a telltale.
Posted by PBMcL 2009-12-26 00:40||   2009-12-26 00:40|| Front Page Top

#2 I suspect Iran may well have buried power plants with multiple exhaust ports.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2009-12-26 06:55||   2009-12-26 06:55|| Front Page Top

#3 But history suggests that military strikes could work. Israel's 1981 attack on the nearly finished Osirak reactor

Israel "finised" Osirak and they will likely finish the Iranian initiative as well. Like Osirak, the UN, Russian, and leftest outrage will last approximately 2 weeks. The reduction or end of Iranian proliferation of conventional weapons to terrorist regimes could possibly be a welcomed second order effect.
Posted by Besoeker 2009-12-26 07:20||   2009-12-26 07:20|| Front Page Top

#4  And Bambi would be such a good Leader in a war....does anyone believe that? A man who bows that good.? Obama is a bendover boy.
You wont see Bambi supporting Israel anymore than he supported the Iranian people's bid for a decent treatment by their own Mullah Regime. Bambi doesnt have a moral instinct. He operates on another standard. He's Chicago and doesnt notice what the Sermon really says. He just sits in the Pew and makes sure he is "present".

You wont see Bambi starting a war. His actions in Afghanistan are put your left foot in and take your left foot out and then turn it all about...that's what its all about ...doe si doe. Hum it with me. No Bambi is no Audie Murphy.

Obanana wouldnt fight for his own mother.

We WILL have a war with Iran. We wont have any choice. And it will be basic and nasty as all hell. Fall 2016. Then another bigger war in winter 2025. Iran wont be around much at all after it is all over. It wont be just tap tap and its over. Its going to be thoroughly final.

Everybody will regret it, but its going to be necessary. Nobody will like the price or the pain or the mess. We waited too long. Wars are bad things. Its been sixty years since Hiroshima...and it still hurts. The Cold War was bad. It still hurts too. And the world is full of those places where you can stand there and there arent any flowers and birds...just bleak stink.

Chernobyl in northern Ukraine...not exactly a tourist attraction....or the old Soviet Fleet at anchor in Vladivostok waters....or the Caspian Sea graveyards. It isnt like the anchored Merchant Fleet mothballed up at West Point. Its cold and dark in the hold in half sunk and leaning Soviet boneyards and sitting on the bottom in a rusting hell with oil slicks and weather-eaten metal.

Chernobyl is gonna be a nice place compared to Iran. And when the little Moslem kiddies smile you wont want to look too closely at their little open mouths.

You dont want to know.
Posted by Angleton9 2009-12-26 08:20||   2009-12-26 08:20|| Front Page Top

#5 Distraction? It's worse than that. As a historical guide, the inexperienced crew in the WH can look to Clinton/Kosovo and its effect on 'Lewinski'. They've already sandbagged the Israelis, and the world 'watched' while Iranians died challenging the leadership, so options are limited.
Personally, I have grave concerns for either a major 'false flag' or other minor misdirection akin to the 'Maddox incident'.
This NYT article 'smells' of manipulation.
Check your 6 (history, that is).
Posted by logi_cal 2009-12-26 09:01||   2009-12-26 09:01|| Front Page Top

#6 Why 2016 and 2025, Angleton9?
Posted by trailing wife  2009-12-26 09:34||   2009-12-26 09:34|| Front Page Top

#7 I suspect that Bambi's kneepads will manage to delay things to the point where the next real President will have to clean up his mess.

That's of course, assuming we still have a country at that point.
Posted by Silentbrick  2009-12-26 13:10||   2009-12-26 13:10|| Front Page Top

#8 On board photo and story here.
Posted by Besoeker 2009-12-26 13:47||   2009-12-26 13:47|| Front Page Top

#9 Nigeria banker fears son is alleged plane attacker

In Nigeria, a prominent banker said Saturday that he was meeting with security officials there because he feared his son was the suspect. Alhaji Umaru Mutallab told The Associated Press said his son was a one-time university student in London who had left Britain to travel abroad. He said his son hadn't lived in London "for some time" but he wasn't sure exactly where he went to.

"I believe he might have been to Yemen, but we are investigating to determine that," the elder Mutallab said. He said he would provide more details later Saturday as he learned more from authorities.

One law enforcement official said the man claimed to have been instructed by al-Qaida to detonate the plane over U.S. soil, but other law enforcement officials cautioned that such claims could not be verified immediately, and said the man may have been acting independently — inspired but not specifically trained or ordered by terror groups.

All the officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was continuing.

Intelligence and anti-terrorism officials in Yemen said they were investigating claims by the suspect that he picked up the explosive device and instructions on how to use it in that country. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to speak to the media.

Posted by Besoeker 2009-12-26 13:52||   2009-12-26 13:52|| Front Page Top

#10 Father of Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab, Nigerian terror suspect in Flight 253 attack, warned U.S.
BY Samuel Goldsmith

NYDaily News
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Saturday, December 26th 2009, 11:09 AM

LINK



Posted by Besoeker 2009-12-26 13:57||   2009-12-26 13:57|| Front Page Top

#11 HELLO I AM ALHAJI UMARU MUTALLAB A PROMINENT BANKER IN NIGERIA. MY SON HAS BEEN UNJUSTLY ACCUSED OF TERRORISM AND I HAVE RAISED THREE MILLION DOLLARS AMERICAN FOR HIS BAIL OF WHICH I AM WILLING TO SHARE ONE HALF OR FIFTY PERCENT IF YOU WILL HELP ME...

I'm sorry, but SOMEBODY had to go there.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2009-12-26 14:08||   2009-12-26 14:08|| Front Page Top

#12 Actually the father tried to alert the US Embassy 6 months ago about his son's radicalism.
Posted by lotp 2009-12-26 14:17||   2009-12-26 14:17|| Front Page Top

#13 OFFICES / DEPARTMENTS
Office of the Legal Attaché
The mission of the FBI’s Legal Attaché Program is to establish and maintain liaison with principal law enforcement and intelligence/security services in designated foreign countries. This liaison enables the FBI to effectively and expeditiously meet its international responsibilities in organized crime, international terrorism, foreign counterintelligence, and general criminal matters. The Legal Attaché’s Office supports the operational needs in Lagos, Nigeria with regional coverage of Benin, Cameroon, Ghana, Equatorial Guinea, Sao Tome and Principle and Togo. The liaison activities performed by the Legal Attachés are essential to the successful fulfillment of the international responsibilities of the FBI and United States interests. Liaising is carried out in accordance with executive order, statue, Attorney General Guidelines, and FBI policies.

US Consulate General
2, Walter Carrington Crescent
Victoria Island, Lagos, Nigeria
Telephone: (234)-1-261-0050, 261-0078
Fax: (234)-1-261-9856

Contact: Legal Attaché: 011-234-1-261-0050 ext 319
Posted by Besoeker 2009-12-26 14:19||   2009-12-26 14:19|| Front Page Top

#14 AH9418, they could try the 1 meter sized thermal port, just like shooting womprats back home.
/geek off
Posted by AlmostAnonymous5839 2009-12-26 18:52||   2009-12-26 18:52|| Front Page Top

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