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2010-06-03 China-Japan-Koreas

US carrier to join SKorea anti-submarine drill

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Posted by Fred 2010-06-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top
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#1 Have the Norks even moved a single soldier anywhere? By choice, or due to lack of resources?

Looks like the emperor may not be wearing any clothes . . . .

Posted by gorb 2010-06-03 00:07|| 2010-06-03 00:07|| Front Page Top

#2 ION WMF > US THINK TANK: CHINA'S EIGHT BRIGADES OF DF-21C's IS EQUIVALENT TO US "PERSHING II" MISSLES. DF-21 SERIES BMS TO COMPRISE THE BULK OF PLAAF SECOND ARTY CORPS BATTLEFIELD AND THEATER CONVENTIONAL, "DUAL-USE" TACTICAL FIREPOWER.

* SAME > IN A SECOND KOREAN WAR, CHINA WILL DEPLOY ITS NUCLEAR STRIKE SUBMARINES TO PROTECT NORTH KOREA, EMPOWER DIPLOMACY-LED PRO-CHINA INTERNATIONAL CONCESSIONS.

* SAME > CHINA IS HIGHLY VULNERABLE TO POSSIBLE EXCLUSIVE/INDEPENDENT, NEAR-TERM OUTBREAKS OF WAR IN THREE VITAL OR STRATEGIC ASIAN REGIONS [India-vs-PAK, DRPK-vs-ROK, Various = South China Sea].

* SAME > HATOYAMA RESIGNATION OER OKINAWA BASE ISSUE SHOWS THE US DESIRES CHINA TO BECOME A SECOND SUBSERVIENT/SLAVE-VASSAL JAPAN.

* SAME > JAPAN VOTER ANGER OER OKINAWA BASES + HATOYAMA RESIGNATION MAY DESTROY THE CURRENT JAPANESE POLITICAL/ELECTORAL SYSTEM. Beginning of the end for the post-WW2, post-Cold War "Status Quo" as per Japan's Govt = Pol establishment???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-06-03 00:24|| 2010-06-03 00:24|| Front Page Top

#3 I can see a very good reason to use a much smaller carrier to conduct asub ops. A supercarrier is just a big target in such a situation.

Posted by Anonymoose 2010-06-03 08:42|| 2010-06-03 08:42|| Front Page Top

#4 If your only goal is sub-chasing, other platforms can do the job. But a carrier battle group has other skills besides running anti-sub drills: battle space management, air defense and the ability to blow up a wide variety of things.

Posted by SteveS 2010-06-03 11:36|| 2010-06-03 11:36|| Front Page Top

#5 Another skill you forgot to mention is that it gives the Norks ulcers.

Posted by gorb 2010-06-03 11:46|| 2010-06-03 11:46|| Front Page Top

#6 OTOH... we don't have antisubmarine carriers (like the nifty ones the Japanese and Italians and whatnot have built) and we no longer have, afaik, antisubmarine squadrons on the big carriers.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2010-06-03 11:59|| 2010-06-03 11:59|| Front Page Top

#7 "Another skill you forgot to mention is that it gives the Norks ulcers."

Bleeding, I hope, gorb. :-D

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2010-06-03 12:00|| 2010-06-03 12:00|| Front Page Top

#8 Is the Navy hiding this from bambi? I can't believe he would approve of such unilateral force projection. Hypocrite.

Posted by Hellfish 2010-06-03 12:16|| 2010-06-03 12:16|| Front Page Top

#9 The only ASW assets onboard the CVs are the various H-60 variants, and the SH-60's carried on the small boys. No more fixed wing assets (S-3); all a consequence of the 'All-Lawn dart Air Wing.'
And what used to be a dedicated ASW bird on the CV, the SH-60F has been multi-tasked to become a Heinz 57 vehicle; assumes ASW, logistics, VERTREP duties. Among others.

Posted by USN, Ret. 2010-06-03 14:20|| 2010-06-03 14:20|| Front Page Top

#10 Bleeding, I hope, gorb. :-D

Oh yes, Barb. The political system there takes care of that part quite nicely.

As for ASW assets on CVs, don't I recall the Chinese popping up in subs not far behind a full CV battle group about two or three years ago? Wouldn't be Bambi's fault if this is related.

Posted by gorb 2010-06-03 14:28|| 2010-06-03 14:28|| Front Page Top

#11 Sink a sub and have no responce to the Norks inquries.

Posted by HammerHead 2010-06-03 15:55|| 2010-06-03 15:55|| Front Page Top

#12 That was the Kitty Hawk ( CV-63) that had the Chicom sub pop up; and IIRC the CO was relieved.
There were no airborne assets at the time in the air, so the CV was depending upon the blackshoes to sweep the seas. That does not imply that the airdales would have found the sub; a common tactic is to trail the surface target by hiding right under it.

Posted by USN, Ret. 2010-06-03 17:18|| 2010-06-03 17:18|| Front Page Top

#13 all a consequence of the 'All-Lawn dart Air Wing.'

Ah, the Hornet. Is there anything it can't do? If two of them could carry a fuel bladder in the same way two sparrows transport a coconut between them, our tanker worries would be over.

Posted by SteveS 2010-06-03 20:01|| 2010-06-03 20:01|| Front Page Top

#14 European or African sparrows, Steve? :)

Posted by Mr. Bill 2010-06-03 23:26|| 2010-06-03 23:26|| Front Page Top

#15 Clearly American sparrows, Mr. Bill. :-)

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