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2010-12-19 Home Front: Politix
They Lost: New Repub. Committee Chair to Investigate Muslim Radicalization
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Posted by  2010-12-19 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top

#1 That d!ckweed Fareed Zakaria or whatever over at CNN was taunting Glenn Beck for claiming that muslim support for terrorism was on the order of 10%! Fareed said it was less than 1%.

If the imams are arm-in-arm about this, then Beck's gotta be closer to the truth.

Any time some radical pops up his head here it seems that not a single muslim anywhere knew anything about it.

"I was shocked! He was such a quiet, unassuming kid! I had no idea! I talked to everyone else and they all will assure you that they had no idea, either!"
Posted by gorb 2010-12-19 00:18||   2010-12-19 00:18|| Front Page Top

#2 Trying to calculate the radicalism of Muslims in the US isn't easy. Some of the variables:

1) Most Imams are Pakistan-Wahabbi trained, so are far more radical than the rank and file. However, a more moderate mosque has no choice: radical clergy or no clergy. It deeply annoys them when their Imam tries to turn their children into violent radicals.

2) Muslims can be rated for radicalism based on their country of origin and sect. Importantly, these different groups tend to have lots of infighting with each other, and have very different rituals and dress so won't even use the same mosque. The downside to this is that there is no published ratings of radicalism by these criteria, which would be very useful.

3) A large and growing number of Muslims in the US are effectively refugees driven out of their home country by radical Muslims, and Muslims who would persecute and kill them for any number of reasons. They are half scared to death that Sharia law will be imposed over them, and want nothing to do with it. Yet they are still stuck in the Muslim culture, mostly due to family.

4) The most dangerous Muslims in the US are American educated converts. They are very radical, very violent, and downright crazy. Fortunately, the FBI, et al. is more than aware of this fact. Thankfully they are few.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2010-12-19 08:39||   2010-12-19 08:39|| Front Page Top

#3 How do they operate? To they preach love and peace to everyone but a select few, or do they preach radicalization and all their followers just forget to report them or at least leave the flock?
Posted by gorb 2010-12-19 09:22||   2010-12-19 09:22|| Front Page Top

#4 That can get complicated. In past there have been Imams directly trying to covert Muslims to radicalism, like the one in Texas who got Hasan, the Ft. Hood shooter.

There have also been floaters who travel from mosque to mosque to recruit others--who are careful to have moved on by the time anything happens.

There are lots and lots of "Islamic charities", some of which are legit, but other both act as pipelines of recruits and money. There are training camps in the US where young men go to learn the background of terrorism.

Add to them "social organizations", "Islamic based businesses" (like the bakery in Oakland), madrassas, and foreign funded activities basically operated through foreign embassies and organizations like CAIR and its ilk.

Finally there are wealthy and sometimes legitimate and sometimes organized crime Muslims, both here and abroad, that conduct their own initiatives (like the Ground Zero Mosque as well as cigarette smuggling rings), and you have one hell of a puzzle to be sorted through.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2010-12-19 11:52||   2010-12-19 11:52|| Front Page Top

#5 The grown ups are taking over the world?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2010-12-19 15:19||   2010-12-19 15:19|| Front Page Top

#6 House Subcommittee

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* NEWS KERALA > [Brit MI5 Chiefs]OVER ONE IN THREE UK VARSITIES ARE TRAINING ISLAMIC RADICALISTS? 39 of 133 UK Universities.
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