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2010-12-28 China-Japan-Koreas

US Admiral: China initiates deployment of ASBM designed to take out carriers and other ships

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Posted by gorb 2010-12-28 00:41|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 "China's ability to place at risk U.S. and other nations' maritime surface assets operating in the western Pacific and South China Sea is growing and closer to becoming a reality than many may think."

Why do we need costly "maritime surface assets?" What have we left to protect? China owns us now, let them protect us. We've let them provide everything else!!!! [sarc off]

Posted by Besoeker 2010-12-28 04:56|| 2010-12-28 04:56|| Front Page Top

#2 From what I have seen from Strategypage and other sources, the FD-21 has been encountering some real snags. Engines blowing up, maneuvering computers freezing, etc. Also, if I recall the warhead is guided in through the Chinese version of the GPS and can be jammed or taken out with a PAC-3. The DF-21 is still at least a decade away from being a functional weapon, according to sources I trust.

However, that being said the Chinese are seriously making strides and plays for dominance in Asia and are looking to project their power across the globe and push the US out of the way. Like it or not, they are wanting to challenge us militarily and that means a cold war (or a hot race of development towards weapons or something).

I know the military is taking China very seriously, even if Bambi doesn't and they need new programs, technology and weapons to keep their edge against China. No amount of singing Kumbia while holding hands is going to change that. The only other option is to surrender, dismantle our military and pray our enemies don't want to take over the United States.

Posted by DarthVader 2010-12-28 09:26|| 2010-12-28 09:26|| Front Page Top

#3 They gotta start somewhere.

The intent is there.

Posted by gorb 2010-12-28 13:39|| 2010-12-28 13:39|| Front Page Top

#4 "The DF-21 is still a decade away..." > Thats a function of how much CHINA is willing to $$$ payout to International Perts, etc. to correct the Probs. "MONEY WAS NOT AN OBJECT/PROBLEM", as the saying goes, for the USSR + Other during the Cold War.

China is planning to deploy more Subs + desires to dev LR UAVS, USVS STRIKE PLATFORMS.

IFFA NEW KOREAN WAR BREAKS OUT 2011-2012, IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT KIND OF INTERIM = STOPGAP MEASURES CHINA WILL DO TO DETER THE USN CVBGS, ESPEC IN NORPAC. Many Chin Netters are still in favor of PLA PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKES, espec agz JAPAN + USFJ - Once the final decision to go to war is made, that CHINA SHOULD BE AFRAID TO USE ITS NUCLEAR, ETC. ADVANTAGES WHILE THE BULK OF US MILFORS REMAIN FAR AWAY
IN EASTPAC + CONUS.

IMO A NEW KOREAN WAR IS LIKELY IFF THE DPRK DOESN'T GET ITS ANTI/NON-CHINESE-DOMINATED FREE TRADE ZONES [FTZ-EEZ-SEZ], + IFF CHINA DOES NOT GET ITS "WARM-WATER" PORTS NOR TOTE US MIL WITHDRAWAL FROM ROK + JAPAN [Taiwan?]IN EXCHANGE FOR INTER-KOREAN MERGER + FORMAL REUNIFICATION.

I'm not convinced STARVING = ECON-TRUBLED NORTH KOREA can hold out 2012-2015/2020 in the absence of MASSIVE IMPROVEMENTS IN CHINESE + INTERNATIONAL AID ["unconditional" internat donations].

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-12-28 19:33|| NA 2010-12-28 19:33|| Front Page Top

#5 See also SIMILAR > DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS = CHINA MISSLE SHIFTS POWER IN PACIFIC.

and

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > CHINA'S ARMY EYES FOR QUICK MODERNIZATION | MILITARY MUST BE SELF-RELIANT: DEFENSE MINISTER.

and

* DEFENCENET.GK > MINES + TORPEDOES WID NUCLEAR WARHEADS DEPLOYED BY NORTH KOREA.

versies

* WAFF > [CSMonitor] JAPAN + SOUTH KOREA AS ALLIES SOMEDAY?

ARTIC = US is pushing NIPPON/YAMATO + KORYE to increase bilateral cooperation in the wake of recent mil incidents as per North Korea.

* PEOPLES DAILY FORUM > RUSSIA BUYS WARSHIPS [French MISTRAL-class Amphibs] FOR GARRISONING [former Japanese] "NORTHERN TERRITORIES".

RUSS CHIEF OF GENERAL STAFF = MISTRALS may be used to REINFORCE RUSS MIL STRENGTH in RFE + FORMER JAPANESE KURILES.

Again, RUSSIA'S DECLARATION OF FORMAL SOVEREIGNTY OER THE JAPAN-CLAIMED "NORTHERN TERRITORIES" still comes down to RUSS SCO-CSTO ALLY + "STRATEGIC PARTNER" CHINA HAVING TO ASK RUSS PERMISSION FOR MAJOR PLA AIR, NAVAL, + LR MISSLE, ETC. UNITS/ASSETS TO PASS THRU THE NOW-RUSSIAN KURILES INTO NORPAC + WESTPAC.

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > CHINA TO START PRODUCTION OF TU-22M3 BOMBERS, aka "Chinese/PLA BACKFIRES" espec as for ALCM, LACM, NACM Strike Platform + interdiction.

* SAME > CHINA PUSHES [Hainan indigenous]] ISLANDERS ASIDE.

Beijing's desired dev + transformation of HAINAN ISLANDS into CHINA'S "HAWAII/PEARL HARBOR OF THE EAST" [Urbanz, $$$ Tourism + PLA Milbases], VERSUS PRO-TRADITION, PRO-ENVIRON, ANTI-MAINLANDER-N-TOO-RAPID-DEV INDIGENOUS "LI" ISLANDERS.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-12-28 21:16|| 2010-12-28 21:16|| Front Page Top

#6 Answer me this. The US and ChiComs are on the brink of conflict or the conflict has already started. Chicoms launch a ballistic missile at a US carrier group. How does the US not respond to a suspected nuclear strike against the group in retaliation to the ballistic missile launch? Do the Chicoms call the US and tell them its not a nuke? Seems to me the US has to respond on launch of suspected nuke attack on a capital ship? No?

Posted by Hellfish 2010-12-28 21:54|| 2010-12-28 21:54|| Front Page Top

#7 Hellfish, if we had a REAl president, you can bet your a$$ we would respond; sadly with the present waffler in chief the best we can hope for is that he will go on vacation ( and probably bow ( curtsey?) to the bell boy)
what a POS he is.

Posted by USN,Ret 2010-12-29 00:01|| 2010-12-29 00:01|| Front Page Top

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