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2011-03-26 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Israel to deploy Iron Dome anti-rocket system

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Posted by Fred 2011-03-26 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 The estimated cost of the Tamir intercept missile is $35,000$50,000,[7] whereas a crudely manufactured Qassam rocket does not cost more than a few hundred dollars.

Posted by phil_b 2011-03-26 00:33|| 2011-03-26 00:33|| Front Page Top

#2 What other choice do we have phil_b?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-03-26 06:59|| 2011-03-26 06:59|| Front Page Top

#3 Well, one option that suggests itself would be to buy a whole pile of cheap Qassams and make sure that there are ten outgoing for every one incoming. But you guys aren't permitted to do that kind of thing, I suppose.

Posted by Matt 2011-03-26 08:51|| 2011-03-26 08:51|| Front Page Top

#4 The estimated cost of the Tamir intercept missile is $35,000$50,000...

You are leaving out the cost of damage inflicted, the terror created and the public relations value of annoying the Juice. Once you add those in, Iron Dome becomes a much better deal.

Posted by SteveS 2011-03-26 08:57|| 2011-03-26 08:57|| Front Page Top

#5 Why not have both? A Tamir Interceptor accompanied by 10 Quassam.

"We fired 11 missles to defend our people from your unprovoked attack targeting our civilians. Too bad - so sad - that 10 of them missed and landed close to the launch site. Maybe you shouldn't attack our civilians..."

Unfortunately the Palieos (and lamestream media) probably still won't get that Cause->Effect relationship even if it's spelled out to them.

Posted by CrazyFool 2011-03-26 10:42|| 2011-03-26 10:42|| Front Page Top

#6 instead of the Qassam component just leave radar driven arty counterfire mode on in units all along the Gaza border.

Posted by Water Modem 2011-03-26 12:05|| 2011-03-26 12:05|| Front Page Top

#7 heh.

Posted by newc 2011-03-26 13:03|| 2011-03-26 13:03|| Front Page Top

#8 What other choice do we have phil_b?

I think something gun-based might have given more bang for the buck. Say, something like the Centurion system, but with a slower-firing-rate, larger-caliber gun.

Or something with a high-power microwave pulse to detonate the warhead.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2011-03-26 14:44|| 2011-03-26 14:44|| Front Page Top

#9 The estimated cost of the Tamir intercept missile is $35,000--$50,000

What's the cost of a 105 mm howitzer shell?

Posted by Steve White 2011-03-26 15:08|| 2011-03-26 15:08|| Front Page Top

#10 $50,000 is cheap if it saves a life, honestly. Weren't these things supposed to be deployed in November? Hopefully they get the bugs knocked out with the Kassams - that's mostly harassment fire, isn't it? The real game is when Hezbollah lets loose with the big rockets, and that might be any minute now with Baby Assad looking for any distraction in a storm.

Posted by Mitch H. 2011-03-26 16:58|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/ 2011-03-26 16:58|| Front Page Top

#11 Sure, Disproportionate Force is an ugly thing. The media, the UN, and Hamas told me. But it also works.
Build two or three of these things. Then put the word out, one inbound = one outbound. And since it's pretty primitive technology, we have no idea where they'll come down. Have a nice day...
Let's see how supportive of the bottle rocket boys the locals are when they pop off a couple and Mahmoud watches his block go up in smoke in retaliation.

Posted by tu3031 2011-03-26 17:41|| 2011-03-26 17:41|| Front Page Top

#12 Pikers. Israel has MRLS, instead of 1 for 1, send back one full battery of fire on the launch site. Be sure to use the DPICM rockets too;) Or if you're feeling mean, FASCAM. Running away after firing your rockets at Israel isn't fun when they dump a minefield on you;)

Posted by Silentbrick - Lost Drill Bit Division - Halliburton 2011-03-26 17:56|| 2011-03-26 17:56|| Front Page Top

#13 Several minutes of lag take place even with radar target acquisition.

Posted by badanov 2011-03-26 19:12|| 2011-03-26 19:12|| Front Page Top

#14 Its' a scale problem. Israel will run out of $50K missiles before Hamas or Hiz run out of cheap missiles.

The only way to stop the missiles is disproportionate counter fire.

I can see the point of anti-missile systems when the incoming might contain chem/bio/nuclear, but otherwise they are counter-productive IMO. Since it allows people to argue that Israel can solve the missile problem by spending a bucketfull of money. Ref the first sentence.

Posted by phil_b 2011-03-26 21:14|| 2011-03-26 21:14|| Front Page Top

#15 Goody. Say, living in Israel has still got to be better than living in The Jewish Autonomous Oblast (Russian: Евре́йская автоно́мная о́бласть, Yevreyskaya avtonomnaya oblast; Yiddish: ייִדישע אווטאָנאָמע געגנט, yidishe avtonome gegnt[11]) is a federal subject of Russia (an autonomous oblast) situated in the Russian Far East. (Read: Siberian)

Soviet authorities established the autonomous oblast in 1934. It was the result of Joseph Stalin's nationality policy, which allowed for the Jews of the Soviet Union to receive a territory in which to pursue Yiddish cultural heritage within a socialist framework.[12] According to the 1939 population census, 17,695 Jews lived in the region (16% of the total population). The census of 1959, taken 6 years after Stalin's death, revealed that the Jewish population of the JAO declined to 14,269 persons.[13] As of 2002, 2,327 Jews were living in the JAO (1.2% of the total population), while ethnic Russians made up 90% of the JAO population..

And people wonder why my Russian Jewish Ancestry fled to greener pastures and converted. Nah, Siberia or Judaism? Ill take neither. Something with a temperate climate and nice people thank you very much.

Posted by Fi 2011-03-26 21:57|| 2011-03-26 21:57|| Front Page Top

#16 Above: www.Wikipedia.com from 3/26/2011

L'Chayim, Comrade Stalin!

Oh Phuck no on that. Nobody is going to relegate me to some territory or region or religion and tell me what I can have and make me fight over it like a hobo over the last crust of bread. Israel ought to fluff their balls up and start blowing up anyone that is on their land. I cannot really respect anything less, since my folks went through deporations, death marches, friggin siberian winter. Grow some ball Israel, quit letting people steal what is yours and box you into some corner. The pity party is over!

Posted by Fi 2011-03-26 22:11|| 2011-03-26 22:11|| Front Page Top

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