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2011-11-10 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Iran General Warns Israel of 'Destruction' if it Attacks

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Posted by Fred 2011-11-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top
File under: Govt of Iran

#1 [IRAN-CONTRA = "WAR" MTV Video by Bruce Springstein here].

Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-11-10 00:07|| 2011-11-10 00:07|| Front Page Top

#2 So, basically, what you saying Masoud is that we have to wipe you out to be secure?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-11-10 02:19|| 2011-11-10 02:19|| Front Page Top

#3 Any unilateral attack on Iran is going to be interesting because of mutual protection agreements with Russia and China.

The situation is setting up almost like the run up to WW I

Posted by crosspatch 2011-11-10 02:29|| 2011-11-10 02:29|| Front Page Top

#4 Crosspatch, are you serious?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-11-10 02:34|| 2011-11-10 02:34|| Front Page Top

#5 One more time. Iran has already warned Israel of destruction whether or not Israel attacks.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-11-10 08:04|| 2011-11-10 08:04|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm dead serious. Russia, Iran, and China have a mutual defense treaty. The dominoes are set up. If Israel attacks Iran, China and Russia declare declare war. If the US defends Israel, we get pulled into it. If we get pulled into it, NATO gets pulled into it. So then we have the US and NATO against an Iran, Syria, Russia, China axis, or more simply put, WWIII.

In the case of Russia, it was negotiated specifically to head off a pre-emptive strike against Iran's nuclear program:

Link here

"A high-level diplomatic source in Tehran tells Asia Times Online that essentially Putin and the Supreme Leader have agreed on a plan to nullify the George W Bush administration's relentless drive towards launching a preemptive attack, perhaps a tactical nuclear strike, against Iran. An American attack on Iran will be viewed by Moscow as an attack on Russia."

Anyone attacking Iran is risking war with Russia.

Posted by crosspatch 2011-11-10 16:19|| 2011-11-10 16:19|| Front Page Top

#7 crosspatch, I cannot imagine Russia going to war on behalf of Iran. Making troubles: which rise the value of their oil exports, and give them a lever re USA policies in Russian "near abroad"; is one thing. But war, they are barely controlling Caucasus.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2011-11-10 16:29|| 2011-11-10 16:29|| Front Page Top

#8 crosspatch -- that's a disturbing bit of news!

Posted by Sherry 2011-11-10 16:51|| 2011-11-10 16:51|| Front Page Top

#9 Well, the extent to which they "go to war" would be up for debate. It could be limited to defensive measures only. But once a Russian anti-aircraft gunner or pilot is killed, the mood will quickly change in Russia.

The Russians might have some wiggle room if they say that it is because Iran violated nuclear non-proliferation treaties and that nullifies the agreement, I would have no way of knowing and can only speculate.

But it does add a degree of uncertainty. Israel attacking by herself would be a difficult gamble. If the attack were a joint NATO/Israeli attack, that might be a different story.

If Israel simply strikes Iran, I would expect a rain of missiles from Gaza and Lebanon and possibly Syria. So maybe a phased approach would be better where Israel finds justification for operations in Gaza first to neutralize that threat. The expectation would be that missiles when then fly from Lebanon as they did in 2006 after Israel went into Gaza. Then Israel would simply take all of Lebanon South of the Litani.

At that point the next move would be Syria's. Does Syria go to war on behalf if Iran? I somehow don't think that would gain a lot of popular support in Syria. If Syria sits tight, the way is then clear to strike Iran.

In other words, I would look at where Israel would most likely see retaliation for a strike on Iran and neutralize those threats first. The current crop of missiles being fired out of Gaza might give enough justification for an operation there and might precipitate justification for taking out Southern Lebanon as well.

With Syria's army deserting in droves and the people there pretty much fed up with the Iranians, Syria might simply sit tight or the Army might simply use a mobilization order to stage a coup and get rid of Assad.

At that point Iran is in a much weaker position and might decide to cooperate on nuclear weapons if they have half a brain.

The wildcard in all of that is the Egyptian army.

Posted by crosspatch 2011-11-10 17:20|| 2011-11-10 17:20|| Front Page Top

#10 Then to forestall anything by the Egyptians, the Israelis should remind them that the Samson Option WILL include Cairo and Alexandria if the Egyptians jump in.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2011-11-10 19:08|| 2011-11-10 19:08|| Front Page Top

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