Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.
#1 A professor at the Joint Forces Staff College was relieved of duty in June for uttering the heresy that the United States is at war with Islam. The B.O. regime contended the professor had to be relieved because what he was teaching was not U.S. policy.
The Tea Party, A.K.A. traditional America IS the arch enemy of our Muslim POTUS and his marxist/socialist domestic allies.
Posted by Percy Grumble6122 2012-08-11 00:11||
#2 Well, you didn't think comrades will give up power just because stupid & uninformed people cast their votes based on their racist/chauvinist/bitter clinger prejudices?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-08-11 04:21||
#3 Imagine Tea Party Left-Wing Radical cut-throats seizing control of a South Carolina town the U.S.A. and the Army being sent in to crush the rebellion. This farcical vision is now part of the discussion in professional military circles.
Oh, wait a minute. That's already happened.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-08-11 08:32||
#4 Since the Whiskey Rebellion, federal troops have been used dealing with numerous domestic situations. Of course the biggest being between 1861-65, however the longest running employment probably was in dealing with the indigenous tribes. In the modern era some of those have been -
Little Rock, AK: On September 24, 1957 the President ordered the 101st Airborne Division of the United States Army to Little Rock and federalized the entire 10,000 member Arkansas National Guard.
Oxford, MS, 1962: Robert Kennedy called in 500 U.S. Marshals to take control, who were supported by the 70th Army Engineer Combat Battalion from Ft Campbell, Kentucky. They created a tent camp and kitchen for the US Marshals. To bolster law enforcement, President John F. Kennedy sent in U.S. Army military police from the 503rd Military Police Battalion, and called in troops from the Mississippi Army National Guard and the U.S. Border Patrol as well. In the violent clash, two people died, including the French journalist Paul Guihard, on assignment for the London Daily Sketch. He was found dead behind the Lyceum building with a gunshot wound to the back. One hundred-sixty US Marshals, one-third of the group, were injured in the melee, and 40 soldiers and National Guardsmen were wounded.
Detroit, MI: The 1967 Detroit riot, also known as the 12th Street riot, was a civil disturbance in Detroit, Michigan. To help end the disturbance, Governor George W. Romney ordered the Michigan National Guard into Detroit, and President Lyndon B. Johnson sent in Army troops. Shortly before midnight on Monday, July 24, President Johnson authorized use of Federal troops in compliance with the Insurrection Act of 1807, which authorizes the President to call in armed forces to fight an insurrection in any state against the government.
LA Riots, 1992: The rioting ended after soldiers from the California Army National Guard, along with U.S. Marines from Camp Pendleton were called in to stop the rioting.
on the lesser violent end of the spectrum, federal troops were employed in recovery actions during both Hurricanes Andrew and Katrina.
In the last three incidents (LA, Andrew and Katrina), federal troops engaged in security operations were largely employed in point security (guard duty) to relieve local law enforcement to permit them to conduct civil law enforcement. It was the cleanest means of avoiding complications arising from the Posse Comitatus Act.
On a side note, do not confuse PCA with the imposition of martial law.
Posted by Procopius2k 2012-08-11 08:42||
#5 First mistake: Assuming ANY town in SC - especially Darlington, which is still about as Old School America as it gets - would let anybody take it over without a fight.
/American by the Grace Of God
//South Carolinian by adoption
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2012-08-11 08:58||
#6 I always sort of pictured it starting with the military, not untrained locals.
Posted by Iblis 2012-08-11 10:21||
#7 I pray to God it does not happen. New research indicates nearly 700,000 lives were lost in the 'War Between The States.' There is no question that we are rapidly drifting in the wrong direction. Whatever happens, we must do everything possible avoid outcomes such as the one described in the article below.
Discount for hotel residents
Bookings available at reception
Closed for religious services on Sunday
-- Notice above Reception desk,
Hilltop Pension, Arenas de Mar
Posted by Besoeker 2012-08-11 10:30||
#8 So there I am, walking to work in downtown New Orleans not long after Katrina, when things were still a bit dicey. Here comes a squad with two A's in a circle on their patches. Most comforting sight I ever saw. And I didn't have any doubt about whose side they were on.
Posted by Matt 2012-08-11 10:47||
#9 I so enjoy stories that begin with...."and there I was...." Whahahaha, ABN ATW
Posted by Besoeker 2012-08-11 11:04||
#10 Yeah, the left bitches about W's response to Katrina, but I'm here to tell you he cared enough to send the 82nd to protect my family. I'll never forget that.
Posted by Matt 2012-08-11 11:56||
#11 I have just two words to say in case anyone on here thinks they would never deploy military troops against demonstrators.
The way things are going, there will eventually be a rebellion or localized insurrection. We will all get a fresh reminder of how little our "rights as citizens" mean to them. Then jug the survivors under the NDAA for the rest of their lives.
#12 If things fall completely to pieces, US military will be force to defend the key assets of the country - high-level politicians and their real employers. The rest of us will have to sort things out the hard way. Imagine 20 or so cities hit with disorders like the LA riots or Hurricane Katrina -- all at the same time and superimposed on a nationwide electric grid collapse.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2012-08-11 13:11||
#13 When tropical storms blow in from the Gulf, folks around here empty the shelves of the Kroger and Public's grocery stores in about 3-5 hours. Of course the stores fully recover in a day or two and it's business as usual. The frightening 'single or dual points of failure' for recovery are the Interstate Highway System and electronic banking. Not sure how long I could survive on zion zoyia salad and squirrel stew. Might get interesting pretty fast.
Posted by Besoeker 2012-08-11 13:27||
#14 I doubt that people in the North think much about the Civil War. In South, there are reminders everywhere of this costly war. Here in our part of Tennessee, battles and skirmishes took place from Chattanooga to the border of Southern Virginia. East from here across Tennessee to Memphis is also dotted by battle sites that had a dear cost to both sides. With the exception of Virginia, Tennessee had more Civil War battles than any other state.
Posted by JohnQC 2012-08-11 15:01||
#15 When I was working in Cambridge, Massachusetts I got into several discussions about the Civil War. What struck me most was when a Massachusetts resident said, "There are still scars around here from the War". He was talking about the small towns where small manufacturing plants had to close after the war because all of the able-bodied workers didn't return from the war. Most of the North didn't suffer near what the South did but they did suffer.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2012-08-11 16:39||
#16 1967 Mj. Bolling commanded the 3rd. bgd. 82nd. Abn. on the streets of Detroit by having the troopers run the streets in formation with their new M-16 assault rifles. Three months latter he commanded the brigade to "rule the night" to stop the infiltration of the NVA into Hue. An outstanding leader of men through three wars and on Labor day the Mess Hall at Fort Bragg will be named in his honor as the Division welcomes home its troopers from Afganistan, and finally welcomes home its troopers from the 3rd. Bgd. that proudly served in Vietnam. Thank you General Bolling for your service, and for bringing so many of us home alive.
Posted by bman 2012-08-11 18:11||
#17 I have just two words to say in case anyone on here thinks they would never deploy military troops against demonstrators.
Today, there are more former service people that are just as well trained and blooded as there are active duty personnel. Most of these former service people consider themselves Patriots.
A lot of them intend to keep their oath, as do a lot of active duty personnel.
The U.S. Military has never had to face as determined, well trained and dedicated foe as their own countrymen. There would be widespread refusals, and outright sabotage by patriots in the ranks.
If it comes down to an outright r3b3llion, the people will prevail. Count on it.
Posted by Secret Asian Man 2012-08-11 19:20||
#18 Is that our daily attempt to poison a bayesian filter?
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2012-08-11 20:44||
#19 One of several, Snowy Thing. And now it's gone.
Posted by trailing wife 2012-08-11 22:58||