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2013-03-04 Government

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Posted by DarthVader 2013-03-04 09:53|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 Ok... how can I NOT start getting paranoid?

Posted by DarthVader 2013-03-04 09:54|| 2013-03-04 09:54|| Front Page Top

#2 Non-eco friendly and have fuel and maintenance tail costs which are quite large. Congratulations on your purchase. IMA waiting for the HESCO and domestic FOB construction contracts.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-03-04 10:01|| 2013-03-04 10:01|| Front Page Top

#3 Comrade, if you've done nothing wrong, you've nothing to worry about. The Commisars know who the loyal Soviet Citizens are.

You're not worried, ARE you, Comrade?

Orion

Posted by Orion 2013-03-04 10:19|| 2013-03-04 10:19|| Front Page Top

#4 I just watched the vid. Fairly liberal use of the term "operator" vs policeman. The line between police and military is beconing increasingly vague.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-03-04 10:27|| 2013-03-04 10:27|| Front Page Top

#5 At the end of the day, they've got to climb out of those vehicle and billet somewhere. Watch for construction of compounds or base camps, not just to accommodate the operators, but their families as well. Then become paranoid.

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-03-04 10:50|| 2013-03-04 10:50|| Front Page Top

#6 So then speaking of Order of Battle, what would this break out to in terms of unit strength?

Posted by Rex Mundi 2013-03-04 11:11|| 2013-03-04 11:11|| Front Page Top

#7 Not sure about Homeland Security force structure, MTOE, etc, but I'm adding black MRAP's to my black helicopter US gummit paranoia file. If they don't pull good PMCS and exercise those beasts, they might as well park them on a slab in front of the VFW or American Legion.

Posted by Besoeker 2013-03-04 11:19|| 2013-03-04 11:19|| Front Page Top

#8 Interesting that they are MRAPs (Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles) and not just armored personnel carriers. These are for use against an enemy who is actively fighting back, not just for hauling troops around. 2,700 vehicles / 50 states = 54 per. Kinda seems like a lot.

Back in the Soviet era, I always thought it was curious that the Ministry of the Interior had their own troops. The more things change,...

Want another ladle of irony? The administration is creating jobs - in the previously evil military-industrial complex.

Posted by SteveS 2013-03-04 11:24|| 2013-03-04 11:24|| Front Page Top

#9 The socialists want your guns. All of them. And are arming up to come and get them, by any means necessary. It's all for the "social good". When the right social situation occurs, they will use thier "authorities" (Department of Homeland Security) to come after YOUR guns. It has ALWAYS worked over seas when Hitler, Mao and the Bolshevicks carefully planed and carefully executed thier domestic control plan.

Posted by Dino Shomomp7692 2013-03-04 11:38|| 2013-03-04 11:38|| Front Page Top

#10 Must be expecting some real ugly incidents in the airport TSA lines.....

Posted by Uncle Phester 2013-03-04 12:38|| 2013-03-04 12:38|| Front Page Top

#11 I feel safer.

Posted by Iblis 2013-03-04 12:59|| 2013-03-04 12:59|| Front Page Top

#12 Maria is from Brazil. A nation surrounded by tyrants. Her country also has a taste of federal tyranny. I was surprised when I just mentioned the information this morning about Obama's DHS purchase of the tanks and she immediately replied "You want me to go home, right?".

She is solemnly aware of what is going on here in this country. Brazilians live under the Federal Policia machine gun towers that are every where in their major cities.

Posted by wr 2013-03-04 13:28|| 2013-03-04 13:28|| Front Page Top

#13 And even though she has lived here for 25 years and has raised a family here, she knows very well what is being done here and what the response will be because ahe was born into federalism before moving here. After all, her children have fought evil in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted by wr 2013-03-04 13:37|| 2013-03-04 13:37|| Front Page Top

#14 MWRAPS need fuel. Just sayin'.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2013-03-04 14:37|| 2013-03-04 14:37|| Front Page Top

#15 Food, fuel, water.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2013-03-04 16:59|| 2013-03-04 16:59|| Front Page Top

#16 Food, fuel, water, shelter, ammo...

Posted by Steve White 2013-03-04 17:02|| 2013-03-04 17:02|| Front Page Top

#17 I say I can still build an abatis faster than any man in the room.

Block the road, make them get out to clear a path and you've got them...just saying, they have to dismount to use their toys and then they have to fight on MY terms. The VC were pretty good at dictating the terms of the fight and DHS probably hasn't studied that stuff that much.

Posted by Bill Clinton 2013-03-04 17:48|| 2013-03-04 17:48|| Front Page Top

#18 Steve, from some of the news reports lately, DHS has LOTS of ammo.

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-03-04 17:49|| 2013-03-04 17:49|| Front Page Top

#19 How resistant are these MRAPS to RPG's or LAWS (or equivalent) rockets? The people will need a can opener.

Posted by Secret Asian Man 2013-03-04 17:59|| 2013-03-04 17:59|| Front Page Top

#20 A SHERIDAN is a "light tank", a CHAFFEE is a "light tank" - A MRAP is a MRAP, which is not a "light tank".

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-03-04 18:32|| 2013-03-04 18:32|| Front Page Top

#21 DV, I don't get paranoid because I know that whoever will be operating those things has to know how. And I am confident that a very large majority of those with such training would refuse to carry out whatever the Bolsheviks might have in mind. They took the same oath that many of us did, to defend the country against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Posted by RandomJD 2013-03-04 18:43|| 2013-03-04 18:43|| Front Page Top

#22 They took the same oath that many of us did, to defend the country against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Obama FEMA Youth. His own private Army. There are plenty of available recruits for whom the oath means bupkis. If they even took an oath.

Posted by Secret Asian Man 2013-03-04 19:37|| 2013-03-04 19:37|| Front Page Top

#23 Shhh, my common sense is tingling, Now I'm riled up.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-03-04 20:16|| 2013-03-04 20:16|| Front Page Top

#24 They took the same oath that many of us did, to defend the country against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

If this was 1995 when some of this crap was floating around, I would agree. However something has changed. The America that was then isn't the one we have now. I view everything this government does with suspicion now and am wary of any agency he gives support and power to.

I swore that oath and I view Obama as a domestic enemy. I just believe that there are still enough people out there that won't stand for his takeover that he will have to leave when his term is over. He will try everything to keep that from happening I think, even an emergency declaration, but he will go in the end more or less peacefully. I hope.

Posted by DarthVader 2013-03-04 20:23|| 2013-03-04 20:23|| Front Page Top

#25 http://how2dostuff.blogspot.ca/2006/01/how-to-make-thermite.html

Molotov-Thermite cocktail.

Posted by twobyfour 2013-03-04 20:25|| 2013-03-04 20:25|| Front Page Top

#26 So then speaking of Order of Battle, what would this break out to in terms of unit strength?

Nine divisions @100 vehicles per regiment three regiments per divisions. This is in Soviet terms.

Posted by badanov 2013-03-04 22:46|| http://www.chriscovert.net 2013-03-04 22:46|| Front Page Top

#27 Obama FEMA Youth might become good at driving those light tank thingies in formation, but that's not the same as being a fighting unit. SWAT units they would not be, nor a regular army tank unit.

Would they be better in a city like New York or Detroit to help put down rioting and civil unrest -- I'm thinking gangs gone wild in the absence of proper policing, eg. during a flu pandemic -- rather than driving through the countryside into abatis?

wr, it sounds like you have a gem in your Maria.

Posted by trailing wife 2013-03-04 23:19|| 2013-03-04 23:19|| Front Page Top

#28 DV, I agree: I swore that oath and I view Obama as a domestic enemy too. I also agree that America has changed since 1995, for the worse.

But I also know people pretty high up in DHS who took the same oath, and share our view. Quite a few ex-military folks at DHS, due to veteran's hiring preference. They quietly do their assigned duties - dry, apolitical, bureaucratic minutiae - but they would also quietly sprinkle sand in the gears if they came across anything truly nefarious.

Even given the radical change in culture over the last 20 years, the sorts who crow about how they'd happily fire on their own countrymen, tend to be the same ones who think guns are icky and scary and have never even touched one. Many also have a rap sheet that DQs them from a federal job with any meaningful authority.

I also think Obozo is too lazy to cling to power. He lusts for fame and fortune - but expects it to just be handed to him, as has almost everything else in his life. Some time ago, I think gr(o)m said it best: Obozo's best qualities are that he is stupid and lazy. Indeed, and thank goodness.

So I understand your concerns, but I think it's just a matter of gritting our teeth until it's over. This too shall pass.

Posted by RandomJD 2013-03-04 23:23|| 2013-03-04 23:23|| Front Page Top

#29 I just can't imageine what DHS would need 2700 light tanks for.

Perhaps they are going to give them as gifts to the Mexican Drug cartels like they did all those guns....

Posted by CrazyFool 2013-03-04 23:42|| 2013-03-04 23:42|| Front Page Top

#30 So I understand your concerns, but I think it's just a matter of gritting our teeth until it's over. This too shall pass.

I pray you are right. I so hope for it.

Posted by DarthVader 2013-03-04 23:44|| 2013-03-04 23:44|| Front Page Top

#31 Oops... sorry it was Justice that gave all the guns away.

Geeze... can't tell your different acts of treason without a program anymore...

Posted by CrazyFool 2013-03-04 23:44|| 2013-03-04 23:44|| Front Page Top

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