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2013-05-02 Home Front: Culture Wars
Boy Scouts rule change could bankrupt iconic group
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Posted by Fred 2013-05-02 10:35|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top

#1 at that age sex shouldn't exist for them.

Yep. And, what stops them from forming their own club? Call them Pathfinders or something. "Snake Eaters," if they want to sound really tuff.

Ha ha oops, maybe not . . . ;)
Posted by RandomJD 2013-05-02 11:21||   2013-05-02 11:21|| Front Page Top

#2 Der Wandervugel ? :-(
Posted by Besoeker 2013-05-02 11:27||   2013-05-02 11:27|| Front Page Top

#3 During the Second Boar War, Robert Baden-Powell saw that his countrymen had lost their field craft skills. On his return from Africa in 1903, Baden-Powell found that his military training manual, Aids to Scouting, had become a best-seller, and was being used by teachers and youth organisations.[26] Following his involvement in the Boys' Brigade as Brigade Secretary and Officer in charge of its scouting section, with encouragement from his friend, William Alexander Smith, Baden-Powell decided to re-write Aids to Scouting to suit a youth readership. In August 1907 he held a camp on Brownsea Island to test out his ideas. About twenty boys attended: eight from local Boys' Brigade companies, and about twelve public school boys, mostly sons of his friends...Boys and girls spontaneously formed Scout troops and the Scouting Movement had inadvertently started, first as a national, and soon an international phenomenon.

Note well the confluence of urbanization and the loss of skills, leading to Powell's initiative.

Enter stage Left, the need of urbanists to co-opt anything that doesn't align with their culture. Either morph it, through force or intimidation, into something that aligns with the priorities of the ruling urban caste, or destroy it.

The right of free association also includes the right of non-association. Just ask the Black Congressional Caucus. They know if they open membership to everyone, they'd soon be a minority again and out of control of its agenda.
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-05-02 12:23||   2013-05-02 12:23|| Front Page Top

#4 During the Second Boar War, Robert Baden-Powell saw that his countrymen had lost their field craft skills.

Difficult to practice effective "field craft" whilst marched headlong into walls of well aimed Mauser fire by incompetent English officers.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-05-02 13:43||   2013-05-02 13:43|| Front Page Top

#5 Boer, not boar. A boar is a male pig.
Posted by Muggsy Mussolini1226 2013-05-02 15:25||   2013-05-02 15:25|| Front Page Top

#6 Difficult to practice effective "field craft" whilst marched headlong into walls of well aimed Mauser fire by incompetent English officers. - didn't learn well from other colonials be it Bunker Hill or New Orleans did they?

Should read up on how officers were selected and promoted in the British Army of the time. Wouldn't be surprised on the results encountered in South Africa. Best read is probably Pakenham's The Boer War which describes well an army trying to reform itself during a war. The out numbered Old Contemptibles learned well enough to handle the Germans smartly in 1914.
Posted by Procopius2k 2013-05-02 15:55||   2013-05-02 15:55|| Front Page Top

#7 They've picked the very worst option of the three possible: 1. Keep current exclusionary policy; 2. Remove exclusion entirely; 3. Allow gay boys but not adults.
Number three adds together the worst outcomes of both 1 and 2: Those who favor exclusion will hate allowing gay boys, AND those who favor INclusion will hate excluding gay men. Presto! Worst of all outcomes. Brilliant.
When Scouting tried to de-emphasize traditional values and outdoor skills in the 70s and 80s, it was a membership disaster. When they woke up and restored these things, ("Character Counts") this trend was reversed.
This change, if ratified, will doom them.
Posted by Mowog 2013-05-02 16:23||   2013-05-02 16:23|| Front Page Top

#8 Commando by Deneys Reitz is a quicker, more exciting read. Like a half of Guinness, you'll not be able to put it down.
Posted by Besoeker 2013-05-02 16:24||   2013-05-02 16:24|| Front Page Top

#9 I take it this would include Cub Scouts too right?

Been thinking about having my son join....
Posted by CrazyFool 2013-05-02 16:30||   2013-05-02 16:30|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Marilyn Lover of the Hatfields1778 2013-05-02 18:47||   2013-05-02 18:47|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Marilyn Lover of the Hatfields1778 2013-05-02 18:52||   2013-05-02 18:52|| Front Page Top

#12 Hmmm, I detect Bias, the Sinktrap shows NOTHING DELETED today.
The last two comments were vanished, not deleted.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-05-02 23:44||   2013-05-02 23:44|| Front Page Top

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